Best fighting point? Opinions please.

flyingmonkey

flyingmonkey

Joined
Nov 6, 2001
Messages
99
Hello All,
I would like to know some opinions for the best fighting style points. I tend to gravitate towards fixed blade hunters like the Master Hunter from Cold Steel or smaller folders like the Delica from Spyderco. These are not typically considered tactical or fighting style blades, but they seem to fit best in my hand and feel solid for cutting. Do most tactical types necessarily have an advantage for stabs or thrusts because of their shape?
Thanks in advance.
Flyingmonkey.
 
Welcome to BFC Flying Monkey, loved your work in "Wizard of Oz" scared the hell out of me when I was a kid.
:D

heheheheheh
(yes, I am a smart***)

Point style for a fighter?

I like a good, fairly long, scary sharp, false edge. Ideally, one that leaves the actual point at or very near the center-line of the blade, making for good thrusts, is thick enough to withstand some abuse, and has just enough curve to it to give it a good "hook."

Most false edges are either straight, or they go to a full blown clip point, I like something a little in between.

Either that or a full blown dagger, but those are completely illegal in Arkansas.
 
Thanks for the welcome, Ken!
Actually, the monkeys in the Wiz are distant cousins on my step-father's great-aunt's side, but nonetheless, I found the forum.:cool:
Anyway, I understand the center-line point is advantageous. Recommend any in the Delica size at low-cost wont be too pissed if I lose it variety?
Gratzie.
 
Don't think you'll find sharpened false edges on a folder. Check out CRKT for inexpensive blades-Urban Shark, Mirage, Apache, KFF.
 
Flying Monkey:

Welcome to the forums! I agree, Ken is a smart*** :)

Anyways, try a CRKT Kasper Fighting Folder. They come in 2 sizes. I have the fixed blade version called the Companion, and the blade profile is awesome. The point is in line with the center but the knife is still set up for slashing. The grip is amazing too. Grab the knife in a natural grip and it won't let go of you!
 
Welcome to the forums!

IMO the classic dagger-style blade is still one of the best fighting/self defense blade designs. Perfect for penetration and (depending on how broad the blade is) suitable for deep slashing.
Recommendable dagger models are:

Cold Steel, Peace Keeper
Cold Steel, Safe Keeper (push dagger)
Böker, A-F Boot
Katz, Avenger Boot Knife
Fällkniven, G1 Garm Fighter
 
Two excellent fighter tips. The top one is called a Sharktooth. It is a double edged drop-point/dagger hybrid that provides excellent penetration, fair belly, and good strength. I also like the Weehawk blade tip as on the Benchmade 710. These are excellent compromises between belly and dagger style points.

View



I also like the reinforced style tip on the Bud Nealy Peshkabz (couldn't find a good picture).
 
The style that I like the looks of best on a fighter is the clip point, followed by the spear point. As far as which one works the best, I really don't know. So many different tips have been used on fighting knives that I would have to guess that there are quite a few that would work just great.
 
Originally posted by KWM
The style that I like the looks of best on a fighter is the clip point, followed by the spear point. As far as which one works the best, I really don't know. So many different tips have been used on fighting knives that I would have to guess that there are quite a few that would work just great.
Click to expand...

Ya. My fave is the straight clip point. The tradeoffs here are, with all other things being equal:

drop-point: stronger point, relatively worse penetration
straight-clip: weaker point than drop-point, relatively better penetration
concave clip: relatively weakest point, relatively best shallow penetration, but deeper penetration might be hampered by the curve.

I tend to favor excellent deep penetration for both general utility and defensive knives. Generally speaking, I strongly favor a straight clip point, false edge, and enough belly to slash. The Randall model 1 format is just great. For longer blades, I like the shape seen on Bagwell's bowies.

Overall, though, my meager skills are such that minor tradeoffs in point penetration, point strength, and slashing ability probably won't have much of an impact on my surviveability of a defensive knife encounter.

Joe
 
My favorite "fighting point" is on the Camillus Cuda CQB-1:

cuda-ad.jpg
 
First, I think a SHARP point works best; nothing like a dull point to ruin your day.
I would personally say a double edge, it cuts in both directions.
I would then think a drop point because the tip is somewhat thicker and closer to the centerline of the blade and therefore stronger.
Something not too long and slender. The longer the blade, the more prone the point is to snapping off. Too short and it's not that effective in penetration.
 
Many thanks to everyone!!!
Some great suggestions and info.
BTW, the Camillus Cuda is awesome and I'll check out the B.A.T.
FM.
 
My favorite fighting point style is pictured below (lower center) on my Ryan Biohazard M1. The false edge is wickedly sharp, as are all of its other edges. :)
 

Attachments

  • choices.jpg
    choices.jpg
    70.3 KB · Views: 253
Eric get's my vote....that Ryan is one wicked looking knife:D Seen it in the catalog but that didn't do it justice. Very awsome:eek: :D
 
Anyone know where I can pick up one of the Ryan knives?...couldn't find anything online.
Thanks.
FM.
 
Don't get your hopes up FM, Eric is teasing you shamelessly. Steve Ryan isn't currently taking new orders and you don't want to guess the price on that Biohazard.
:eek:

Beautiful, but not something I'm ever likely to own.
:(
 
Here is my favorite defensive blade design:

dozier.jpg


Bob Dozier #6 with a 5-1/2" blade

Simple, strong, and versatile.

--Bob Q
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top