Best khukuri for self-defense?

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Greetings, all!

Ok, I know carrying a knife for self-defense is a little bit ....shall we say.... unorthodox, these days. However, I find myself living and going about my business in a none-too-savory part of town, and I think a bigger knife might be just the ticket. I have a concealed carry permit, but I also live in a very liberal state, and I'm sure that if push comes to shove and I had to defend myself with a firearm, it'd be an absolute nightmare.

Anyway, I'm wondering which HI model would be most effective. Alternatively, for my purposes, should I go with HI, or should I purchase one of the military-issue antiques from IMA or Atlanta Cutlery?

Thanks for your help :)

Eric
 
Nope. That would be a bad idea ;)

I'm thinking underneath the sport coat or some other jacket I wear 95% of the time. Something to pull out if and when the situation would call for it. (If you walked through my neighborhood, I think you'd understand.... not 'violent thugs with MP5s' or anything, just street punks with a penchant for mugging people.
 
I'm sure a 30-inch Cobra will chase away bad people, but I think a handgun seems more tame when compared, lol.
 
Definitely go with H.I.

The 12 and 15 inch sirupati are well liked by m,ost the martil artists who use them.

The 18" chitlangi and sirupati are credited with cutting as well as a katana which is a much larger blade.

Both are of reasonable weights for a blade their size with their capabilities.

My favorite since I chose it for both survival and defense is the M-43.

Anothe r favorite of many for your application is the BAS which is the 15" model currently used by the Gurkhas.

All lengths are overall lengths.
 
...And you think a court case over defending yourself with a 14"+ knife will be any easier than if you'd just plugged a guy?

I think you might want to reevaluate your strategy there, Connor McCleod of the Clan McCleod.

What state you in innywayz?
 
...And you think a court case over defending yourself with a 14"+ knife will be any easier than if you'd just plugged a guy?

Beaten to the punch.

Also, most "liberal" states have very "liberal" knife laws. Heck, most states period, even Texas limits you to knives with a 5.5" blade. A lot of places completely ban fixed blades for carry.

All the states I can think of which do not prohibit the concealed carry of giant knives (like PA) are also very easy to carry guns in (like in PA, it's explicitly legal to CCW a sawed-off shotgun).

I should get me a trenchcoat and try CCWing this combination, just for fun.

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But if I had to give a straight answer, it'd be a 9" to 12" Sirupati or Kobra.
 
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I have to chime in here, everyone knows that guns are sooooo much better....I don't like guns, I have carried a knife for everyday purposes including defense for as long as I can remember...so if you want a knife go with a knife under the complete understanding that a deadly weapon is a deadly weapon whether it shoots bullets or has a edge....personally I would go with a baton for defense and back it up with a smaller say 10 - 12 in kurkri or a karambit. The Baby BDC from 10/5 would be perfect while small for a kurkri its still bigger than most things on the street..

Antique Kurkris from ATC or IMA are very cool I own a couple of antiques myself but they are for collecting not use...
 
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I've thought about this topic before and have read various opinions. Since I now own more than a dozen HI products (believe me, it doesn't take long to build a collection and you'll have a ton of fun and make many friends here in doing so), here is what I can share from personal experience and the products I own and I'm sure others will chime in:

Note: my Khuks tend to fall into the 15-in to 20-in category and I'll mostly comment on HI products from the perspective of handling, speed, and balance, which are of key importance when using a knife for self-defense (you should of course train in distance control, take down defense, ground combat, keeping the weapon "alive," among other things; but most importantly respect the fact that a knife's point and edge can cause devastating effects both intentionally and not even in the hands of an untrained person who may come at you from odd angles).

My favorite candidates:

1. 15" Katunje - by far the best balanced Khuk I have and feels like a natural extension of my arm. It's also Auntie Yangdu's signature knife. This Khuk feels so good in my hand that it's almost second nature to wield. It's also feels balanced without any sacrifice to power and can chop as well as a similar-sized AK.

2. 16" Sirupati - Handles very well and has a thick spine but the difference between the Siru and the Katunje is that the Siru feel more like a chopper in my hand (more forward weight distribution) than the Katunje. I would never have guess it at first and it still doesn't make much sense but actual practice tells me it's true. Maybe my Siru has a thicker spine than usual? But in any case, the Siru still feels faster than all the rest of the bunch.

3. 18.5" Chilangi - Slower than the Siru but not by far. If the Chilangi were 16" instead of 18.5", I think it'd be faster. But the knife is beautifully done with fullers and still very maneuverable for a big boy. The weight distribution is actually less forward feeling than the Siru but due to its length, it's slower.

4. 15" AK - I have a silver mounted carved AK by Master Kami Bura and its balance is awesome for a chopper. AKs are generally not known for their speed but the 15" version still feels reasonably fast. I would definitely place the 15" AK behind the Katunje, the Siru, and the Chilangi, however.

I would not recommend any other Khuks that I have for self-defense because they feel like choppers and tools (WWII, Boomerang, Hanshee, bigger AKs, UBE, YCS, and all the favorites). But there are definitely many other choices for you e.g. Kobras (very fast). As for non-khuks, however, my HI Classic Bowie (I bought it because I love horn handles and it has a big piece of carved horn) feels like another extension of my arm. It was made by Kami Sher the Younger and features a thick blade, chiruwa handle, thick steel guard, and a razor sharp edge. It handles like my Katunje from above and my Spyderco Rock Salt (a non-HI product reference), which speaks volumes about its maneuverability. My short Bura Bowie would come next (more forward, chopper-like feel). And if you want a pretty utility knife that can also be used for self-defense (think big sharp butter knife with a carved wood handle), I'd recommend a Kumar Karda.
 
Ryan M.>>

How long is the barrel on that gun? Is that...legal? I thought a shotgun barrel couldn't be any shorter than 18"?

(no insult or offense meant, but that looks a tad on the short side)
 
Only a tad? The entire gun is 17" long from stem to stern. It's advertized as a 6.5" barrel, but it actually measures closer to 7.2".

Just need an ATF form 1 or form 4 (mine's on a form 4) to register the gun with the federal government before taking possession or starting construction (or buying parts), and it's legal. Sometimes referred to as the "Class III" paperwork, and some people think you need a Class III license to own. Not true, it just needs to be registered (which is also the only federal gun registry).

At least in this state, as it's possible that some states do require you to hold a Class II/III license to own Title II (NFA) firearms. I know NC requires you to have any type of FFL, including an 03 (C&R), so it's possible other states have even more stringent requirements.
 
...And you think a court case over defending yourself with a 14"+ knife will be any easier than if you'd just plugged a guy?

I think you might want to reevaluate your strategy there, Connor McCleod of the Clan McCleod.

Your right, it's a bit of a fallacy, I suppose, to assume that a blade might dissuade where a pistol or whatever wouldn't. My thought process is as follows: if I pull out a pistol, I hope I won't have to use it, but I better not pull it out unless I'm prepared to do so. That's just being responsible. Likewise, if I draw or expose a knife, the same deal. However, maybe it's silly, but I have a little more faith in the persuasive power of a blade than I do in a .38. And if I don't have to use it (we hope and pray) then there's no court case and I don't have to try to explain to the judge why, precisely, I was carrying something long and pointy.

(By the way, I looked up the laws regarding knife carry in my area a week ago and it seems to be quite legal... I've seen people wearing them, before, so I assume this is true. Either that, or the laws simply aren't enforced.)

Either way, I'm still interested in the question in an academic way, because, what can I say, I like the looks of these and respect a quality product. Thanks, all, for your thoughts.
 
Of all my khukuris, I consider my sirupati to be my best pick as a fighting weapon.

BUT, let's not forget the Seax!

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Big knife, very sharp, and very pointy!
 
A thought: The back or flat of the blade could be used non-lethally & if things escalated, the edge could be brought to bear.
Uplander
 
Suggest you pay close attention to weight as it varies greatly among Khuks of the same length. It will be a major consideration in carrying as well as handling.
 
+1 for a collapsable baton. They have varying lengths, and w/ some training can be very lethal if need be. Just a compromise.
 
Well seems to be the BAS and the WW2 would be the most weapons type tools, however the M43 is an improved WW2 so that may be better still and then there is the new one that showed up recently, the one with the thong hole, that thing would scare people if you pulled it, heck i ghet scared just looking at it on my monitor!

Seriously though i use a YCS and it would make a terrific weapon if it came to that - but I practise with it a lot and you have to do that to knife fight, plus you have to be prepared to get all bloody as well, lop someones hand off you better be prepared to get sprayed wit the red stuff.

Finally if you do not know how to use it and someone calls your bluff then takes it off you, well you would probably not post anymore...
 
The Kerambit is great, however it is only a close interval weapon.

The M-43 is a great improvement over the WW II, and is much more serviceable on the thrust. Just one of the reasons that it was my choice.
 
Personally I think any big blade is a bad idea in the USA unless you live in rural areas, have to deal with thugs all the time, or live in and area where everyone's got a machete... just my thoughts.

A small kukri and a pistol should be fine... and good self-preservation logic and common sense is best and works ~90% of the time.
 
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