best place in the woods during a t-storm?

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I spend quite a bit of times out in the woods. I live in Maine and the canopy can get thick at times and I'll lose track of the weather. I've been caught in a couple t-storms lately and was wondering where is the safest place to go for cover. Just curious on everyone's thoughts/opinions on this.
 
Stay away from lone trees in pastures!
Last time I was in the woods; I was looking at the trees around my tent and saw that about 4 or 5 within about 50 feet had signs of lightning hits (strips of bark gone or splits or burnt lines running down their sides. (Moderatel to heavily wooded campsite below the ridgeline, maybe 900-1200 feet below treeline.) It did not fill me with confidence.
Enjoy!
 
Hi Joe, thanks for your reply. I make plenty sure to stay away from lone trees and open spaces. Usually I'll try to head down to lower elevations and find the lowest point like a dried brook bed or something. I heard somewhere that certain trees are better to avoid than others as they conduct better. Anyone heard anything like this?
 
I had a bolt come down a tree within 50-75 feet of me.
Split the bark of the tree and set it on fire.
It's true, all the hair on your body does stand up just before it hits.
:eek:

Not fun at all.
 
Ebbtide said:
It's true, all the hair on your body does stand up just before it hits.
:eek:

That it does. Was at a park playing ball one time when a tstorm hit. Some of us ran for cover under a brick awning that had a concrete floor. For about 5 seconds our hair was standing on end then a huge bolt spiderwebbed on either of the awning. About the scariest s@#% I've ever experienced. Ears were ringing for about 3 hours afterwards.
 
Hair raising is right! Had bolt hit a tree 75 feet away .tree exploded into splinters Tingly all over!:eek:
 
akabu said:
Hair raising is right! Had bolt hit a tree 75 feet away .tree exploded into splinters Tingly all over!:eek:

I love sitting on my back porch watching storms. But, lightning hit a large tree about 50 ft. away from where we were sitting. Not only was it hair raising, it was the loudest kaboom noise I've heard in my adult life.

The tree never recovered and fell apart within a year after the strike.
 
Best place is close to the ground as you can get, always good to have some kind of tarp with you. If you think your next they say stick you butt in the air let it hit your butt.
 
shipwreck said:
Best place is close to the ground as you can get, always good to have some kind of tarp with you. If you think your next they say stick you butt in the air let it hit your butt.


This is right. Stay close to the ground, but don't lay flat, and avoid trees period. The tarp wont protect you from lightning, but it will keep you dry. IMPORTANT!!!
Don't cover with a Mylar Space Blanket. They will conduct electricity. maybe even attract it. better safe than sorry.
 
Fried rump! It can also give you a helluva a vertical leap that way, just like Yosemite Sam! :D :P I think that advice is a last ditch effort to get it to run down your leg and away from your heart.

Had a bolt hit 10 feet behind the car I was driving in, just as I was turning around in the back seat. Had ringing in my ears and saw nothing but blue for about ten minutes. Did you know you can put a permanent dent in the headliner of a 72 Nova when you get the @#$@ scared out of you? It's true!
 
Some of this will repeat advice given earlier. For that, I apologize, but I want to get it all into one response.

Interestingly, yes--there are small differences between conductivity between different trees of different species, and even of different sizes. BUT: lightning contains an unfathomable amount of voltage and amperage--any slight difference between conductivity in trees will be unimportant. If the tree is hit, it will pretty much explode on you.

Avoid being the tallest or most obvious thing in the area, and don't stand among them. This includes the "lone pine tree," of course, but also means you should avoid small groves of trees in an otherwise open area: hiding in there puts you very close to a tree that might get hit. As a few of us have already posted, you don't want to be anywhere near a tree that gets hit. There's a powerful percussive shock, and bits of flaming or smoking wood are propelled out of the tree at scary velocities. Additionally, the sap inside the tree instantly boils (which is what helps blow the tree apart), and scalding goo flies out of the tree. Add to that the falling limbs and possible downing of adjacent trees, and your best bet is to avoid trees.

Seek shelter. A rocky outcropping, an automobile, a tent... whatever.

No shelter? Crouch down on the ground, without your hands contacting the dirt. You want a grounding path along your spine (top of the head to balls of the feet), and never give the electricity an option to travel through your heart by touching the ground. Electricity, if given a choice of grounding itself through your shoes or your arms, it's going to choose running down your arms because there's less resistance.

Once crouched, ditch any significant metal equipment you're carrying: chuck it a few feet away. If you're hit, any metal equipment on your body could contribute to a significant burn. Plus, the more metal on you, the cuter you look to a side flash of lightning.

If you can detect a clear pause between flash and boom, the storm is moving away from you, and you can move toward better cover. But wait until there's a definite gap: one to two seconds. Make sure that you're clear on that-- you might confuse multiple strikes, and move into greater danger.

One thing that concerns me is your statement that you can lose track of the weather. Gotta be honest--that's like losing track of your direction. It could be very dangerous-- please make an effort, because few storms sneak up on anyone: they usually announce their impending arrival pretty early. If you're hearing thunder, it's time to move toward safety.
 
I can understand the storm sneaking up on you.
Small fast moving cells are on you quickly. The sky gets dark and the lightning rides the front of the front.
Ever hear the phrase "A bolt from the blue"?

When I almost got whacked, it was a foggy, dreary, drizzly morning.
We fished all morning in the fog and drizzle & broke for lunch.
Sandwich in hand, we walked over the ridge, following a stream to check the deep pool on the other side.
There were maybe 10 splats of big raindrops. I told my buddy I was heading back to the truck.
At an easy jog I reached the top of the ridge and the lightning bolt came down. No others were seen or heard.
No driving rain or high wind.
That all came later.
When I felt my hair go up, I dove for the ground.
I think we both hit at at the same time.
My friend wa about 75 feet behind me & said that I bounced up about a foot in the air when the bolt hit.
I never felt that.
I made the 100-175 downhill yards to the truck at a run.
There wasn't another flash or boom till after my friend got back after a leisurely walk back to the truck (& inspection of the tree) laughing the whole way.
 
Some great input guys, thanks :) Weather has been a little weird here this year. Is it just me or have we had some very fast moving cells this year and a lot of them? Guess I'll just try to pay more attention to what the sky is doing and continue to hope for the best if caught again. Thanks again everyone.
 
A few years ago a number of National Guard troops were killed by lightning in Ft. Dix, NJ. It happened at night during a field exercise. The troops were bivouaced under pine trees, lying on the ground in their shelters. The lighting hit a nearby tree. The shock ran thru the ground into their shelters, killing and injuring a number. I believe they were lying on a foam rubber pads but it didn't help.
 
A few years ago a number of National Guard troops were killed or injured by lightning in Ft. Dix, NJ. It happened at night during a field exercise. The troops were bivouaced under pine trees, lying on the ground in their shelters. The lighting hit a nearby tree. The shock ran thru the ground into their shelters, killing and injuring a number. I believe they were lying on a foam rubber pads but it didn't help.


May 3, 1998
"One New Jersey National Guard soldier was killed and six others were injured this morning at Fort Dix when lightning struck the tents where they were sleeping. The soldiers were from Battery B, 3rd Battalion, 112th Field Artillery, which is based in Lawrenceville, NJ. The unit was at Fort Dix conducting artillery firing when a brief, but intense, electrical storm struck the area where they were bivouacked. The storm struck at 5:00 AM while the unit was still sleeping. Three squad tents were affected by the strike - killing and injuring personnel in two of the tents and shocking the occupants of the third."
 
I like to stand on the highest point of land in a washtub filled with brine, holding ten foot graphite rods in each hand, and wearing a copper helmet.
 
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