Best place to have someone re-heat-treat a blade for me?

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I have an M4 Manix, and want to start using it. It wasn't a cheap knife however, and want to get the most out of it. I heard that this run of knives had a hardness that was less than it could have been run. Can anyone recommend a place to get a blade re-heat-treated?
 
Maybe try using it first to see if the heat treat suits your needs. Seems silly to shell out the money to re heat treat the blade based on what you've heard.
 
Its probably not worth worrying about. Have you tried it out to prove any of these claims you heard?
 
I'm not worried about it, but I'm almost 100% certain Spyderco chose to run their M4 on this knife softer than say what Benchmade runs theirs now. I have the means to sharpen it just fine, and I would like the increased edge retention from a re-hardening.
 
It's not quite as easy as it sounds to just re-HT a blade.

Shipping it both ways, having a qualified maker take it apart, anneal, re-harden and cryo/re-temper the blade, clean it up and then put it all back together will likely cost as much as the knife itself. Is that really worthwhile for slightly better edge-retention?
 
james terrio said:
It's not quite as easy as it sounds to just re-HT a blade.

Shipping it both ways, having a qualified maker take it apart, anneal, re-harden and cryo/re-temper the blade, clean it up and then put it all back together will likely cost as much as the knife itself. Is that really worthwhile for slightly better edge-retention?
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The Manix 2 is quite possibly my favorite knife of all time. CBBL is my favorite locking mechanism. CPM-M4 is also my favorite steel. So to have pretty much the perfect knife, yes I would pay a lot for it. I did not however know it would cost upwards of $200.
 
Strong-Dog said:
The Manix 2 is quite possibly my favorite knife of all time. CBBL is my favorite locking mechanism. CPM-M4 is also my favorite steel. So to have pretty much the perfect knife, yes I would pay a lot for it. I did not however know it would cost upwards of $200.
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You could probably take the knife apart yourself, and just send the blade in -- that might make it somewhat cheaper, at least.
 
Strong Dog, good luck finding someone to do the reheat treating. There are some ruined knife blades from people trying it. Expensive ones like Sebbies. It doesn't work out so well fairly often. Most won't do it any more due to the pretty large chance of having something go wrong. You might be better off trying to find a custom maker who can make you a fresh blade to your specs.
 
The Mastiff said:
Strong Dog, good luck finding someone to do the reheat treating. There are some ruined knife blades from people trying it. Expensive ones like Sebbies. It doesn't work out so well fairly often. Most won't do it any more due to the pretty large chance of having something go wrong. You might be better off trying to find a custom maker who can make you a fresh blade to your specs.
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Ah. Nice to know, I had never heard of that before. Oh well I guess
 
Scurvy092 said:
What's the hardness on the knife? What do you think it should be?
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I don't know the specific hardness of my knife, but I know it's less than 64-65 HRC. Which is also what I think it could be. But I never knew the risk involved with re-heat-treatment, so it doesn't matter now.
 
As others have said it will be expensive to start with, the whole process involved and then if the the HT or tempering process is blown the blade will be useless....

And it does happen.....
 
What would be the real world benefit of doing all that work? Less maintenance sharpening? Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy the S110v Manix?
 
You're going to screw your knife up. Just use it. I'm positive Spyderco knows what they're doing.

Either that or you could track down someone to do the HT for you, send it to them and let's say they DON'T screw it up.... Ok, you will have paid almost the price of your knife for a couple of Rockwell points. Doesn't make much sense.

If I were you I would definitely use it first and see how it goes. I bet it will work fine for you. If it dulls to butter knife sharpness after a couple of cuts then you will know what to do....... but it won't do that.
 
In order to heat treat the blade, the knife would have to be disassembled. If you aren't a knife maker or have some knifemaking experience, you would need to pay a knifemaker to do that. It might cost more than a new knife. Use the knife and enjoy it.
 
Knife Outlet said:
In order to heat treat the blade, the knife would have to be disassembled. If you aren't a knife maker or have some knifemaking experience, you would need to pay a knifemaker to do that. It might cost more than a new knife. Use the knife and enjoy it.
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I've disassembled plenty of knives, that isn't what concerns me. Now that I know what can go wrong, I'm over it. What is the consensus if Bento will do another run of these?
 
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