Best techniques for efficient axe use?

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I have seen some Ray Mears videos and the Chapter from Kochanski's BushCraft book, but that was mostly safety stuff. I see guys on youtube cut through a 12inch tree in minutes............ Whats the technique? Because I have tried and tried and it just takes my a long @$$ time.



My axe: GFB Small Forest Axe
 
Square_peg is correct. A twelve inch tree is just too large for a small forest axe. Great axe, but it's more of a bushcrafting axe. Just think that if it takes 3 minutes for an experienced user to cut through a tree with a felling axe it will take approximately 6 minutes with a boy's and 9 with a large hatchet like the small forest axe. And generally this will take more energy as well.

There was an old manual from a competition axeman. I forget the name of it right now but I'm sure someone will remember it. It had the best illustrations and info on notch patterns that I can remember. Strangely there is very little information out there on this and it is one of the most important things.

I have not read through this all but it has similar illustrations:
http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/scoutaxe.pdf

With bucking you see how this advocates starting forehand and hitting top, bottom, middle. The reason you do this is because you either want the toe or heel slightly outside of the cut, as this keeps the axe from sticking so much. Or in other words, you always want to create a chip with one open side to make it easier. If you cut top and then middle there is more likelihood of getting the axe stuck since the chip is basically locked in from the bottom. And generally the heel is the easiest to get a cut so it will be better for hard wood.

You can also alternate between backhand and forehand to get chips rather than a whole plate as the above method shows. Forehand bottom, backhand bottom, backhand top, forehand top, forehand middle, backhand middle is one example. Personally I think this is the safest method as well. Hitting the bottom hit first means there is more material when you start and have to judge distance more, and forehand top after the backhand means you have a little more control when the chip is popped.

You can experiment to find what works best for you. Chips or plates depends on the situation really. Just remember that you have to be lifting the chip, so sometimes when you're learning you may have to try hitting the same spot twice. You may also want to learn bucking by rough bucking rather than standing on top of the log as it is safer. Keep in mind that you will have to make the cut nearly twice as wide to get through though.

As well, once you're experienced enough you want to aim for 50 degree cuts at the start. This is because of the way the axe cuts, after each chip in a successive spot (each layer essentially) you have to decrease the angle by a few degrees or you are at risk of a glancing strike.

In felling the practise is basically the same. Farside, nearside, middle, or backwards to this. Going for chips is the way to go here, mainly for safety reasons (preventing barberchairs by keeping an enforced hinge), but due to the nature of felling you want a straight cut on the bottom, almost parallel to the ground and across the grain, so it is much harder to cut deep. This means you will have to hit twice on this swing much more often than with bucking.

Professional competitions are a fair bit different but they give you an idea of what you need to do. Standing block is different due to the fact you don't need a real hinge, you don't want to swing up like that in felling. But it's still good information as there are so few good video tutorials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZacqMrA9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb9fWu7JES8

And remember what Kochanski says about axes. Often women do better in training because they focus on aim and pattern while the men think they can power their way through it. Bucking can be good practise as it is very dangerous to try and power through. I would also recommend going through small trees like birch and work your way up to the 8-12 inch trees.

If you're going with the small forest axe you'll want to rough buck standing from the side. Otherwise you can find cheap vintage axes if you want to try a full-sized axe.

Good luck.
 
you move your hands up and down while screaming leeerooy jenkins, that should do the trick

Pretty sure this is the right answer.


Half the time when you watch youtube, the tree is like green pine or something. Green softwood makes anyone look like a super hero but I guess it's worth considering what kind of material you are going to tackle in order to make less work for yourself. I'm not saying they are trying to deceive viewers - brush clearing is a great use for the SFA. It is a brush clearing machine really. I was recently hacking on a green Silver Maple. It's about like cutting an apple. But I was also using a 3lb axe. The head weight alone did all the work.

I think the big disconnect with felling trees is, people get an axe in their hand, and they just want to cut something down. Well, for camping and such you're probably looking for fire wood. You might be able to collect enough without swinging the axe once. But let's say you can't. You've found something dead standing. If you mean 12" diameter, and it's dead, and we don't know what kind of wood, then yeah, expect a lot of work with the SFA - a LOT. How you mentally approach it can make a difference. Do you just want to swing your axe? Do you just want to get some exercise? Those are legitimate reasons IMO. But I can understand the feeling of having this thing you really like, but not really getting to put it to work. I think the thing to do is find some carving projects, spoons, a canoe paddle, make an axe handle, primitive traps, and do those projects with your axe. That's really where it shines and it'll allow you to get lots more use from your axe.
 
There is some brilliant information above. The only thing I would say is that it's a good idea to cultivate the 'snap' into the cut. The same principle is used with a kukri where you use a loose grip to snap the blade into the chop. With an axe this is accomplished by decreasing the speed of your hands just before the bit impacts the wood. This creates a snapping effect that increases bite.

I think it's a similar concept to the action you use for towel whipping a loved one while doing the dishes! :D
 
Wow, how great is this video!? I wish I had seen that a few years ago.

Basically the definitive guide to any beginner questions. I've never seen anything that good.
 
For the OP's amusement I went out and "bucked" the Silver Maple I mentioned, one piece about 12" and one maybe 18" .... I suck. Feel better.
 
This is what I wanted, thank you. Entertainment, Old timey books, Professional instructors............................................................ :p
 
"Angus Graham, my wife's father, was quite famous in his day around here. He was a good axeman, well recognized. He hated a saw. He was just a man, I suppose, five foot six, but he was heavy set. He could chop! When he went into a tree, I don't know how he did it. He'd start by hitting two glancing blows down at the bottom and he'd start the scarf. You cut down on a slant, then cut fairly straight in the bottom of your notch; we call that your scarf. Then he'd drop to the far side of the tree and drive that axe right to the eye, pretty well up to where the handle starts. When he chopped, he didn't give you a chip like I would give you, he'd give a junk; it'd be a piece. He was quite famous. All their family were good axemen, but Angus was considered to be good and steady."
- Robert Kincaid in "Woodchips and Beans"

"Make the first cut, the undercut, in the direction the tree is to fall. In making the undercut, the top part of the cut may be at an angle of forty-five degrees and the bottom part of the cut may be made using cuts at 45 degrees that move through the wood in increments of the depth of the axe cut. This may not look as neat as the straight in cut but is more efficient."
- Mors Kochanski, "Basic Safe Travel and Boreal Survival"
 
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