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Say you were wanted to conceal a folder at all costs. What's the best way to do so where the knife is still somewhat accessible?
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Best way to conceal a folder
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Inner waist band (IWB) in the small of the back if the folder is thin...I wouldn't do this with a Strider AR
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!!What knifenerd said.
For IWB carry comfort, a thinner package is more comfortable. For example, the thinner Spyderco Military is much more comfortable than the (1/8"-thicker) Benchmade 806 package. Additional comfort is gained by sanding smoother radius on the outside edges of some knives.
Disregarding other considerations of tip-down versus tip-up carry, moving the clip position also affects concealability. Example: Benchmade 806 with clip moved for tip-down carry results in less exposure above the waistband.
For IWB carry comfort, a thinner package is more comfortable. For example, the thinner Spyderco Military is much more comfortable than the (1/8"-thicker) Benchmade 806 package. Additional comfort is gained by sanding smoother radius on the outside edges of some knives.
Disregarding other considerations of tip-down versus tip-up carry, moving the clip position also affects concealability. Example: Benchmade 806 with clip moved for tip-down carry results in less exposure above the waistband.
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I have thought about and tried IWB 3-6o'clock, with a trimmed pocket clip, but the knife is visible if my shirt rides up (which happens a lot to me as I am a very active person). Pocket carry is undesireable because of the possiblitity and record of losing the knife (see part about activity).
To bad they don't make pants watch pockets lower than the real pocket. I wonder if one could cut a slice in the denim below the pocket and sew it, so you could clip the knife, but it'd still be inside the pocket.
And before anyone jumps to conclusions, I assure you I'm not doing anything illegal, just desiring full concealment.
To bad they don't make pants watch pockets lower than the real pocket. I wonder if one could cut a slice in the denim below the pocket and sew it, so you could clip the knife, but it'd still be inside the pocket.
And before anyone jumps to conclusions, I assure you I'm not doing anything illegal, just desiring full concealment.
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depends what you want to conceal... check out eric "normark" for either a neck rig, or a belt rig(have one right now that holds my spydie ronin right above the belt line, pressed into my spine).
the neck rigs for my ss 'fly are tight enough that I have gone jogging, and even jumping rope with it on, and it's not going to fall out. Have no concerns of losing my 24/7 neck carry.
the neck rigs for my ss 'fly are tight enough that I have gone jogging, and even jumping rope with it on, and it's not going to fall out. Have no concerns of losing my 24/7 neck carry.
Depends on the pants. I've got a couple that have change/watch pockets that are totally concealed in the pockets. If I use it, I'll clip a Kershaw Chive and maybe a space pen in there. I've also got one or 2 pairs that the watch pocket is longer than normal, and have fit a 4 1/2" Gerber Applegate folder in there.
Dockers have the pants with hidden leg pockets -- these also have a hidden pocket in the RF pocket -- don't know how a knife clipped there would conceal.
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The better concealed, the harder the access. I used to carry a 3" folder with a 4" inch, square profile handle, pretty thick, IWB at 2 o'clock. No one knew where it came from when my thumb fished it up.
But I also have a couple of pairs of pants with a hidden watch pocket inside the waist, not in a pocket. You could make these up easily, and the knife would ride just below the top of the waist but completely hidden. A little slower access, though.
But I also have a couple of pairs of pants with a hidden watch pocket inside the waist, not in a pocket. You could make these up easily, and the knife would ride just below the top of the waist but completely hidden. A little slower access, though.
Bravo, Esav!
Somewhere around the house, I have a self-made inside-the-pocket holster I hand-sewed for a small-frame auto pistol. The overall width was just short of the width of my pocket, stabilizing the position of the auto in upright position. The felt material tended to grip the inside of the pocket very well, while the gun pulled free with little effort. Double-thickness of felt hid the imprint of the pistol very well.
Similar design would seem to work very well for an inside-the-pocket sheath, stabilizing the knife in upright position, eliminating the need for any clip at all. The felt tends to grip cloth very nicely, yet the knife would draw with little effort.
Stitching some velcro 'loop' material into the inside of your pants pocket, with matching velcro 'hook' material to the felt sheath, would further help stabilize the knife upright at barely-concealed pocket depth. No clip required, to reduce package width. Sew the 'loop' velcro inside the waistband for IWB carry.
I might try this. Or, I may just go lie down until the thought passes!
Somewhere around the house, I have a self-made inside-the-pocket holster I hand-sewed for a small-frame auto pistol. The overall width was just short of the width of my pocket, stabilizing the position of the auto in upright position. The felt material tended to grip the inside of the pocket very well, while the gun pulled free with little effort. Double-thickness of felt hid the imprint of the pistol very well.
Similar design would seem to work very well for an inside-the-pocket sheath, stabilizing the knife in upright position, eliminating the need for any clip at all. The felt tends to grip cloth very nicely, yet the knife would draw with little effort.
Stitching some velcro 'loop' material into the inside of your pants pocket, with matching velcro 'hook' material to the felt sheath, would further help stabilize the knife upright at barely-concealed pocket depth. No clip required, to reduce package width. Sew the 'loop' velcro inside the waistband for IWB carry.
I might try this. Or, I may just go lie down until the thought passes!
Back in the 70's before knives had pocket clips, I used to sew a vertical seam 3" up from the bottom of my front jeans pocket with just enough width to hold a Buck 110 in the upright position.Top of the handle was just below the edge of the pocket and readily available when needed yet totally concealed.Kept my loose change in the front part of the pocket and never got a scratched up knife.Now I just clip my Benchmade in the same spot but then nobody hassles you when you're 50+.
SmartCarry makes several sizes of holsters (for handguns) that you wear around your waist but under your pants. The smaller ones may work well for one or more knives.
http://www.smartcarry.com/
A cell phone pouch on the belt could hold a folder and it is unlikely anyone would think your are carrying a knife.
Rich
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A cell phone pouch on the belt could hold a folder and it is unlikely anyone would think your are carrying a knife.
Rich
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Which brings up the idea I've used where the crumpled shirt fabric going up and over the belt-clipped cell phone is a perfect foil to disguise an IWB fixed blade handle from printing. The eye just sees the crumpled up fabric that one expects to see. This does not work with tucked-in shirts, though.
You have not mentioned the weather factor. But if you are to be wearing very light clothes such as durng the summer time, and are very active as you mentioned, you may want to look closely at the chest rigs made by Robert Hummelbaugh at www.survivalsystems.com
The knife of your choice is held flat firmly against the chest at the appropriate draw angle. The kydex sheath is worn via an adjustable chest harness rig that actually pivots at certain points for total comfort. I have been wearing mine with a fix blade while cycling, working at the shop, and even on days where I simply want to take a stroll. Comfortable, concealable AND quick accessiblity.
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The knife of your choice is held flat firmly against the chest at the appropriate draw angle. The kydex sheath is worn via an adjustable chest harness rig that actually pivots at certain points for total comfort. I have been wearing mine with a fix blade while cycling, working at the shop, and even on days where I simply want to take a stroll. Comfortable, concealable AND quick accessiblity.
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