BG42 steel question

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What is the BG42 steel, as used in the folders, hardened to? Harder for maximum edge retension or a little softer for greater toughness? It is always a trade-off. Does Paul Bos decide what is optimum or is it specified to him by Mick and Duane?
 
Probably Mick and Duane will give you more precise answer. My understanding is that Mr. Boss heat treats the steel according to Strider specs.

As far as my experience goes with Strider/Boss BG-42 I only have very positive impressions. It is relatively difficult to sharpen, but edgeholding is very good and definitely worth those extra strokes on the shapnener.
Even when I've lowered the factory edge on my Strider/Buck spearpoint to 21 degrees it held up perfectly. That is, I've had no problems with wires, cable and staples. No chipping or edge rolling whatsoever.
 
Thanks. That should make for a long lasting edge.
What is it about BG42 that makes it the choice for the folders instead of ATS-34?
Sorry to ask so many questions, but I really am interested in learning as much as I can about Strider knives.
 
Hey,
Your question is a good and frequently asked one. It is not about Strider Knives, it is about materials.
Here's the deal, metallurgy is a field so vast, there are dozens of avenues to follow all the way to a doctorate level.

We (Strider Knives) are constantly in communications with engineers and metallugists and Paul Bos working on finding "the holy grail" of materials and heat treat. There are many other knifemakers out there who work just as hard at this as we do. We have a luxury that most do not in that there are two of us.

Your question of "how hard ..." is a question that does not really give a substantial answer. Here's why;
With BG42 for example, there are AT LEAST 100 different formulas or recipees one can use to achieve Rockwell/C 60/61. This means that comparing two edged tools with identical geometry and material composition, both at R/C 60/61 can and will give dramatically different results.

Our goal is to continue to apply, evaluate and evolve the best possible combination of these factors (materials, heat treat, and geometry) and supply you, the consumer with the best that we can do.

We will never be the first to offer the newest whiz bang steel on the market because by the time we finish doing our in and out of house test and evaluation, many companies have already fielded the material and sold it. That's ok with us.

We will never tell you, our way is "the best way" that an edged tool can be made. It is simply the best we can make it at that given time.

Rather than all that shiny bullshit marketing hype, we CAN and WILL tell you that we will stand behind every knife that leaves our shop as if it were our greatest accomplishment.

So to close, I will be happy to have you present at any show we attend and will gladly bore you to death with technical details of the material/heat treat/geometry world. (As long as you buy the beer)

Thanks for your interest,
Duane Dwyer
 
Thanks for the answer Duane, and I will try to make it to a show sometime. If I do, the beer is definitely on me.
 
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Rather than all that shiny bullshit marketing hype, we CAN and WILL tell you that we will stand behind every knife that leaves our shop as if it were our greatest accomplishment.
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These are people who I want to spend my money with. Dontcha just love some knife people?

JC
 
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