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Gary W. Graley

Gary W. Graley

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This silly BIG trucks run up and down our once quiet road, :mad:, taking the Fracking solution off to some where to dump...

You can select HD for the quality to view it better, these trucks are FLYING by our house all hours of the day and LATE into the night, very late into the night...

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Then another truck right behind it, I shot this one in Slow Motion, camera speed,

pretty cool stuff, no sound with this but it looks like the truck is crawling by...

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G2
 
Gary, that truly sucks. I'm very sorry to hear (and see!) this...
 
Thanks Matt, they are taking over most of north eastern PA, the hills are filling up with these rigs,
almost like being in Texas. Worried about the water, that's always a risk with this type of operation.
G2

and they are ZIPPIN' by to, not at a very safe speed on these narrow roads!
 
Gary W. Graley said:
Thanks Matt, they are taking over most of north eastern PA, the hills are filling up with these rigs,
almost like being in Texas. Worried about the water, that's always a risk with this type of operation.
G2

and they are ZIPPIN' by to, not at a very safe speed on these narrow roads!
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That's what you get for moving out to the country for a little peace and quiet! :p
 
First of all, identify that truck somehow, license plate, whatever, and send that video to whomever owns the truck. They may be interested to see their employee's driving techniques with their expensive truck filled with hazardous materials. (You may need to switch to taking still pictures with a high-resolution camera so you can zoom in to read whatever identification there is.)

Second, talk to your city/county about this dangerous situation. Share the videos with them. Perhaps an enforcement patrol is needed for a few days.
 
Do they allow spreading the "brine" onto your roads down in PA? Here in NY, the so called brine (a combination of salty water from the well bore, drilling fluids of unknown composition and any other contaminants from the well bore) are carried by those trucks and are spread onto rural dirt roads for the supposed benefits of dust suppression. Who knows what is in the fluid and what happens when it dries on the road surface and eventually returns to dust and becomes airborne with vehicle traffic? This is just the cheapest way to dispose of the industrial waste fluids and is allowed by the government.

Drilling for natural gas is a hot, controversial topic here in NY. It seems to me that the economic profits all go to a select few while the environmental costs are often suffered by poor rural communities. How many people living in the gas fields can really give their well water to their children to drink with a full peace of mind? Yes, we need gas, but - if the politicians who are so supportive of drilling lived in homes near the wells and drank the well water, I think they would be more cautious.
 
In an area I used to work, we had a quarry. The gravel trucks would follow a pattern... They would progressively overload the trucks and not put covers on them, and also speed on the mostly-residential roads that led out of the quarry area.
Finally, the residents would get annoyed enough and call in complaints.
We'd get hold of the state patrol who would bring along their portable scale equipment, and run radar.
So, the lads would get cited for speeding, overload, failure to cover the load, etc.....
Then, all would be peaceful again for another 6-8 months till the quarry owners would start overloading again....
 
Thanks guys, finally got this other one to load up onto youtube, must be my DSL connection isn't the greatest...

again, it's also available in 1080p HD just takes a moment or two to load up for you to view.
as I said, they usually travel/hunt in packs of two.
don't know if they do that brine thing, have to check into that and Esav, thanks ;) it WAS a peaceful area...

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G2
 
We need a way to measure the speed. If you will please, measure -- carefully -- the distance between that road sign and the mailbox. If you have a ten-foot tape measure, you can use that quite easily. With that distance known, we can measure how long it takes the truck to go from the sign to the mailbox and calculate the speed.
 
I think you should do some investigative journalism. Document as much as you can and do an expose. Some local paper, or more modern form of commuty media will like to get the story. Find out what the contracts are, and just what is going on. Follow one and get some water and or soil samples of what they are dropping. You can get some tests done with some soil scientist guys. Go gitem Gary Graley!!!!! It is about stewardship of our natural resources.
 
Get the trucks USDOT number or MC number, should be somewhere on the side of the truck. If you can get me the number I can get you in touch with someone higher up.
 
thanks guys, I've thought about following them to see where they end up and may well do that too.

To compound matters, not far from here they are also BLASTING in a gravel quarry. The blasts shakes
the house! Again, so much for the nice quiet country community :)

G2
 
Your signature is at work in odd ways.. sorry about the noise/trouble.. I had to move from a busy road to a forest edge, now I hope they don't harvest anytime soon =x
 
That stinks but most oilfield companies are responsive to complaints about that their trucks. It is possible that there is no other route they can take but if they are speeding that can certainly be dealt with.

Those are vacuum trucks and really there can be most anything in them. It could be fluid from a frac (fracturing) job but it is not likely unless there is just no way 18 wheelers can go down those roads. It is most likely produced salt water which is not dangerous but will kill most plant life for at least some time period.

It is illegal to put produced water on the roads in most states. It was very common prior to the 1980's. Its too bad because there is very little downside and a great deal of positives to be had by doing so.

There is a lot of controversy surrounding drilling in Pennsylvania currently and most of it to be honest is very much unfounded. People often times fear what they don't know about. There is without a doubt some danger associated with the production of oil and gas. But not nearly as much as some purport it to be.

If I were you I would contact the company name on the trucks themselves. If that isn't something you want to do just call the D.O.T. They will be more than happy to deal with this situation. Hopefully it can be dealt with in a way that works for all.
 
G2, living in a smallish rural town, too, I would suggest attending your town council meeting or personally contacting your mayor. See if others have the same complaint, ask for law enforcement to monitor the area for a time. I've taken photos of problems and that's always helped at the meetings.

Good luck,
Win
 
This thread reminds me of another thread (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/819933-Gasland?) where we discussed the impact of natural gas drilling, you should give it a look.
The area where I live has been a natural gas hot spot for the last decade or so, but thanks to drilling technology advances, the once humble natural gas area has exploded with investment and drilling sites.
I can sympathize with you, although I'm sure you're new to this truck activity.
In my area, they have full blown 18 wheelers hauling their dirty water all day long up and down the tiny parish roads.
The road right outside my house has been redone twice in the last 10 years and the bridges are closed at least ever 3 months, since the trucks are always overweight and speeding.

As the price of natural gas goes up, the activity can only get worse, since the Haynesville Shale is the largest natural gas deposit in the world, and is for the most part largely untouched (and I have the privilege of living right in the middle, lucky me!).
Do you know which shale you are located above? There are some pretty large ones up there around PA, I know that much.

Good luck with the traffic man, and I hope they don't go tarnishing your drinking water.
I hope you're also getting a pretty chunk off the mineral rights, that would one of the only bright sides to this unfortunate situation.
Stick it out man, the big gas companies think they can lobby and muscle their way into town and take over, but in the end they all have to answer to the citizens of the communities that they destroy. Your combined numbers are powerful enough to send those billion dollar suites packing, you just have to find your voice.
 
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