#@$&% Bill Gates

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Well, maybe it's not his fault but you knew what was going on, didn't you?

Yvsa and LCS37 have had probs and were refused access to forums. I can't read any threads. Was about to see if I could post notice of probs but Kis beat me to it. Thanks Kis!
 
Bill Gates is a survivor and promoter. He knows how to gain advantage of any situation. Let's jetsun him into space and see him try.

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With every new windows format, there is an 800 number for ordering new software, and an 800 number for reporting piracy. There is no 800 number for error or dysfunction. This is purposeful, as WE are the QC. It would cost money to test a product thoroughly before introduction. Why bother? His is the dominant operation system and we eat it up.


munk
 
I hate computers. Why, if I didn't make my living off of them........nevermind.
 
Munk - that's the state of the art for PC games today. It costs too much money (and time, and time is money) to iron out all the problems of most applications (and almost all games) before they're released these days. It's assumed that end users will have a decent internet connection and enough knowledge to find the publisher's website so that software that's released in a semi-intentionally buggy format can be patched a week or two after release. Why this assumption is invalid is beyond the scope of this post but needless to say, I don't agree with it.

Games are usually a safer bet. They're normally patched to near-perfection before the sequel is released. (Unlike Windows 98.) To each his, or her, own. Games are occasionally released without being functional. They normally don't do well.

Online updates are the wave of the future. It saves money for the publisher and developer to release programs that are, according to the standards of a decade ago, incomplete, in the expectation that future problems will be ironed out and fixed and available via downloads.

I'm not protecting Microsoft's (or the others') practices. When I purchase a program I expect and demand full function. Unfortunately, this often isn't the case. In the occasional case where a program performs to its expectations (see Half Life 2), the wait is often unacceptable. I don't like it - but I'm not in charge, and this is where things are headed.

The solution? When a program (or major update) is released, give it some time to mature. I still haven't downloaded Windows Service Pack #2 for the simple reason that I've heard so many bad things about it, both on the internet and personally. When the gripes die down I'll download it. When a game is released I give it at least a week for the same reason: it probably didn't leave the publisher in the state that I'd like it to be in.
 
I'm in charge of producing major software for the government...1/2 of my budget goes to testing (1/4 for the requirements, 1/4 for the programing itself). Rough figures, but darn close. MS can't afford to test like we do.
 
I understand all of the above. But if Bill Gates makes the money, then he can be the scapegoat. Or the Gadarene swine. Hmm... need to use up the sliced ham in the fridge.
 
oh: Why does Apple do so much better?

With all the extra billions Mr Gates has, where is this argument about not enough money for testing?



Sorry, I don't believe it.


munk
 
Namaarie's Opinion:

I'd like to think that if I was Bill, I'd make sure my product was good before I sold it. If it wasn't, I'd bend over backwards to right the problem quickly and completely. Just how I was raised.

However, I'm not Bill. I'm also not a multi-bajillionaire.

Point is this: I am able to post on this incredible forum, thanks to Microsoft software. I run XP. I use internet explorer. The server for the forum probably uses something microsoft. WE ALL OWN MICROSOFT. Like it or not, we need it. It's easy to say that he's so excessively rich that he could do it right. Right? Probably not. Better? Definately.

But, economically speaking, what incentive does microsoft have to change when business is gangbusters? If I were him, I'd like to think I'd do it right. But would I? One cannot know.

The point: If his business is great, he won't change. I like my XP, even though it gives me problems. I'm getting a new XP system this summer. It's like wal-mart. Easy to complain about, but so hard to live without.

Namaarie
 
Satori said:
I still haven't downloaded Windows Service Pack #2 for the simple reason that I've heard so many bad things about it, both on the internet and personally.
I've got my computer set to automatically receive updates so SP2 was installed with no hassles. I haven't had any trouble with it at all.
 
I like XP. Solid operating system. Ditch using Internet Explorer and download Firefox from Mozilla. Just do a GOOGLE search for Firefox. You won't regret it. Tabbed browsing = Cat's meow.
 
Kampfjaeger said:
I like XP. Solid operating system. Ditch using Internet Explorer and download Firefox from Mozilla. Just do a GOOGLE search for Firefox. You won't regret it. Tabbed browsing = Cat's meow.

I've been using Firefox for a coupla months now. No complaints. Some nice features in it.

I've been having trouble getting Thunderbird to work. :( It didn't transfer the mail settings right. blah.
 
I tried the Mozzila Firefox and didn't care for it, too used to IE I guess.

With the SP2 and auxilliary security I haven't had any problems at all, that is since I had to reload my system some time back now.
 
I think Firefox has more similarities to Netscape than IE. Therefore the transistion was not as difficult.

I've never been able to get used to IE.
 
Me either, Bruise. When Netscape got hinkey and my mail/address book kept disappearing, I started using Firefox/Thunderbird. I'm still on Windows 98 2nd ed.
 
98 2nd...and quite happy with it. I still have DOS.
 
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