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Since that's where the metal is thinnest, it's not surprising. Especially if on an axe that has seen some use so you've worked into a region that was even thicker when new.
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Is the hardness deep or just surface hardness? You could be dealing with the oxidation layer.
Not oxidation, I thought it was at first but I am well past that now.
QUOTE="FortyTwoBlades, post: 18112511, member: 222280"]Especially if on an axe that has seen some use so you've worked into a region that was even thicker when new.[/QUOTE]
That is a rarely discussed factor plain carbon steel alloys are poor(-er) at "through hardening",and can harden differentially during the normal HT,the deeper parts of the edge remaining softer.
However,a number of other factors may be involved,like a careless HT sequence,or possibly a de-carb via C migration,diffusion of carbon into the lower-C body underneath,on some thinner parts of an overlayed bit,or some other cause of uneven distribution of C throughout alloy)
(or is the axe worn clear into it's unhardenable body,in places?)
That is a rarely discussed factor plain carbon steel alloys are poor(-er) at "through hardening",and can harden differentially during the normal HT,the deeper parts of the edge remaining softer.
However,a number of other factors may be involved,like a careless HT sequence,or possibly a de-carb via C migration,diffusion of carbon into the lower-C body underneath,on some thinner parts of an overlayed bit,or some other cause of uneven distribution of C throughout alloy)
(or is the axe worn clear into it's unhardenable body,in places?)
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it could have been quenched fairly "cold" (enough to get the job done but not hard and the heel and toe would have heated faster, subsequently getting hotter and quenching a bit harder
It’s a mono steel head, 2 pound gambles artisan with eye ridges. The temper line is almost 2” back from the edge. At this point I am not overly considered, the “softer” section seems comparable to other axes I have worked on. I guess we’ll see....hopefully the heal/toe don’t chip.
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You could leave them with a little thicker bevel. I do this habitually. It doesn't affect the cut much as most of the cutting is happening in the middle. You give up a tiny bit of speed for durability.