OilMan
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Been looking for a SFNO for a while to finish out my knife "collection". I say collection in quotes because I was actually looking for users but I have more than a couple other Busse/kin now so I guess it's a collection of users.. Always figured I'd be done amassing when I found a SFNO. Well, a SFNOLE popped up on ebay and the user said it was "NEW", although the pics were a little blurry, so I did the buy it now and paid immediately so it wouldn't escape. A day later the user marked it as shipped an all is well. Until a week later and I still don't have a knife. I send the user 2 different messages on 2 different days asking for tracking information which is promptly ignored. No comms from the user at all until I open a ebay case then the guy shows back up, says he mistakenly marked it as shipped a day after the sale and that he would ship today Priority Insured w/SigConf. I see he added a tracking number so I closed the case even though the tracking number didn't work that day. Figured it would work the next morning. Which it didn't. Turns out the guy only got Sig Conf which isn't trackable. He didn't fess up immediately until I stayed on him about a tracking number. I was very blunt about it and he didn't like that I said he operated like a scammer.
So.. I had to wait until it either showed up or didn't. It finally shows up a day after he guaranteed me it would after really shipping it and I immediately let him know. Then I get to work and open it up and it's got a layer of film on it that makes it look dingy and I could already see the small rust pits underneath it. A non knifenut on the other side of the room asked me what all the stains were from.. I clean it up in my office with WD-40 to get the grime layer off and some of the rust but you could still see where most of it was. I tell the guy about the issues and then the fun really starts. He tells me he took hires pics of it at the PO right before he sent it because I came across like someone who would pretend the item didn't arrive and that I was lying. I then opened up another ebay case for item incorrectly described and offered him a solution of either send $50 back for the cleanup or a full refund and I'd send the knife back. He then writes up a big thing about how WD-40 is known to stain metal and that the knife was now chemically altered so it wasn't the same thing anymore. I then took some pictures that showed the issues (pics below) but they were of course after I got the majority of the rust and film off of it. He then says that it's buyers remorse and that it was perfect before he sent it. I then ask that he post his "Hi res" pictures which would only help my case as they would show how bad it was before he shipped to me. His pictures miraculously disappeared at that point. His solution was that we were going to have to disagree and leave each other good rep. I didn't see it that way so I left an honest and accurate red for him. He promised to give me a red if I did him earlier but in the end left me a green and said I was a great buyer? OK. Either way there was no way in hell he was getting the SFNOLE back after I did all the work cleaning it up so I closed the not as described case and told him I would use the option he didn't list, leaving him red rep and letting the cards fall where they may on my return rep. Only red rep I've ever left anyone on ebay IIRC.
Epic. But finally done. I'm sure I probably left some stuff out or in the wrong order but you get the gist of it..
So.. my collection ended on a goofy note but I got the knife I wanted, although I would have preferred a coated one, and now I don't have to refresh the Busse for Sale page 50 times a day anymore.:thumbup:
Here's the pics after I cleaned it up the first time but stopped before getting all the rust/schmootz off of it.
You can see the rust that is right on the edge here after I got most of it off.
Notice the scratches on this side, I told the guy I wasn't counting them as they were probably caused by the cardboard sheath.
The stuff you can see here was part of the filmy residue on it. Came off with some elbow grease and WD-40 for the most part.
At this point I cleaned it up the rest of the way using toothpaste to get the remaining rust off and now it's beautiful again. Every time I use it I will think of the idiot who sold it to me but it's a different knife now from when I received it so bully for me. Just needs pants now. Deciding on what color Kydex I want Paw Paw to do it in.. Leaning towards desert digi..
Sorry for the long post, I'm just glad to be done dealing with the seller. Am I too picky about a satin knife advertised as NEW? Would you have said something after receiving a rusty New knife?
So.. I had to wait until it either showed up or didn't. It finally shows up a day after he guaranteed me it would after really shipping it and I immediately let him know. Then I get to work and open it up and it's got a layer of film on it that makes it look dingy and I could already see the small rust pits underneath it. A non knifenut on the other side of the room asked me what all the stains were from.. I clean it up in my office with WD-40 to get the grime layer off and some of the rust but you could still see where most of it was. I tell the guy about the issues and then the fun really starts. He tells me he took hires pics of it at the PO right before he sent it because I came across like someone who would pretend the item didn't arrive and that I was lying. I then opened up another ebay case for item incorrectly described and offered him a solution of either send $50 back for the cleanup or a full refund and I'd send the knife back. He then writes up a big thing about how WD-40 is known to stain metal and that the knife was now chemically altered so it wasn't the same thing anymore. I then took some pictures that showed the issues (pics below) but they were of course after I got the majority of the rust and film off of it. He then says that it's buyers remorse and that it was perfect before he sent it. I then ask that he post his "Hi res" pictures which would only help my case as they would show how bad it was before he shipped to me. His pictures miraculously disappeared at that point. His solution was that we were going to have to disagree and leave each other good rep. I didn't see it that way so I left an honest and accurate red for him. He promised to give me a red if I did him earlier but in the end left me a green and said I was a great buyer? OK. Either way there was no way in hell he was getting the SFNOLE back after I did all the work cleaning it up so I closed the not as described case and told him I would use the option he didn't list, leaving him red rep and letting the cards fall where they may on my return rep. Only red rep I've ever left anyone on ebay IIRC.
Epic. But finally done. I'm sure I probably left some stuff out or in the wrong order but you get the gist of it..
So.. my collection ended on a goofy note but I got the knife I wanted, although I would have preferred a coated one, and now I don't have to refresh the Busse for Sale page 50 times a day anymore.:thumbup:
Here's the pics after I cleaned it up the first time but stopped before getting all the rust/schmootz off of it.
You can see the rust that is right on the edge here after I got most of it off.
Notice the scratches on this side, I told the guy I wasn't counting them as they were probably caused by the cardboard sheath.
The stuff you can see here was part of the filmy residue on it. Came off with some elbow grease and WD-40 for the most part.
At this point I cleaned it up the rest of the way using toothpaste to get the remaining rust off and now it's beautiful again. Every time I use it I will think of the idiot who sold it to me but it's a different knife now from when I received it so bully for me. Just needs pants now. Deciding on what color Kydex I want Paw Paw to do it in.. Leaning towards desert digi..
Sorry for the long post, I'm just glad to be done dealing with the seller. Am I too picky about a satin knife advertised as NEW? Would you have said something after receiving a rusty New knife?
saddens me wheni see it
I think you need an alternate ending to this sory. Hopefully we can make that happen for ya Greg. 
