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BK 14 steel vs. BK 11 steel

InquisitorLord

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OK so I pulled the trigger on a 14 the other day and am waiting for it to arrive. In doing my research about the 14 vs the 11 I discovered that the two are made from different steels. I checked out the 14 vs 11 threads and this is one question that I didn't come across. Visually it looks like the same knife with two different handles and the specs tell the same story, so what's up with the different materials? I went with the 14 because I was able to get a good price on it but am still curious. I plan on getting a San Mai 11; so, would the different steel on the regular 11 really warrant getting one as well?
 
Yeah I am pretty sure they are the same steel man, both 1095 and both 57-58 Rc
Check out the database , where did you read they were different? this is excluding the san mai of course.

BK11

BK14
 
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The Bk 11 and BK 14 are both made from 1095 Cro Van. The SanMai is SanMai Carbon/Stainless.
 
Ok, I'm a little confused.

Lets see if we can clear some of this up,

The BK14 and BK11 are both made from 1095CV steel, Rc 58-59.

The BK11CSM is a san mai (layered steel) that has a carbon steel core (1095CV) a stainless shell (440A).

Where did you find the info that said they had different steel?

Moose
 
This is from the database:


oo Shape: drop point
oo Edge Angle: 15 degrees
oo Grind: flat
oo Steel: 0170-6C
oo Rc hardness: 57-58
oo Blade length: 3.25 inches
oo Overall length: 7.0 inches
oo Blade thickness: 0.166 inch
oo Knife Weight: 2.65 ounces (0.165 pounds)
oo Handle: skeletonized
oo Sheath: friction necker-style glass filled sheath
oo Origins: knife made in USA
oo MSRP: US$

I thought it was the DB so I went back to check and found the above, then I noticed this:
o Camillus Era

So I looked up and saw the KaBar era uses the same steel for both, oops :rolleyes:, I thought the most recent info was on bottom. But what is the difference anyway? Don't need to worry about getting one of them just curious about the steel now.
 
From what I understand (and others can correct me if I'm wrong), 0170-6C is the same as 1095CV. Maybe not literally the same but essentially.
 
InquisitorLord -- Read the Becker Blade Database faq, under "The almost last word on the steel..." link, and you'll know about as much as anyone else. 0170-6C was a Camillus name for the same steel that Cold Steel was calling Carbon V, per Phil Gibbs at Camillus. According to Toooj at KA-BAR, Carbon V started out as 1095CV (CroVan), based on the Sharon Steel 0170-06 recipe. Dan Maragni eliminated the small amount of Ni at Ontario and Camillus. KA-BAR's 1095CV put it back, but it's essentially the same steel, but using a marquenching HT recipe instead of the conventional quench at Camillus.

Moose -- The faq doesn't list it, but the original KA-BAR webpage on the BK-11CSM listed the San Mai sandwich as having a core of Hitachi White Steel 2, clad with 410 stainless. Thanks for the SHOT Show info. We all appreciate it.
 
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