bk2/esee5 sheath compatibility

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alright, i know someone on here has both of these knives and can answer this for me...

is the new (gen2) bk2 sheath compatible with the esee 5/6 sheath system? i'm wondering if i can get the molle back and pouch for the esee 5/6 and put the becker bk2 with the new sheath on it instead of the esee 5. based on the fact that they both accept molle clips, the grommets should be very similar spacing, if not the same. can anyone chime in and let me know if this is a possibility please? thanks.

guntram
 
Sadly, no, the BK2 sheath is NOT compatible with the ESEE MOLLE-back and pouch system - the becker sheath is too wide. The on-center measurements between eye-lets straddling the blade (to which the attachments screw) are thinner on the ESEE-models ~2 3/8", ~2 5/8" on the BK2 sheath.
Here is a link to a virtuovice vid, at the tail end of which he lays the sheathed knives side by side - use your thumb to compare widths.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ceiQHd0Q94

Potentially, a custom kydex sheath can be made for the BK2 that accommodates the ESEE-attachments - if you like the versatility, it might be a worthwhile investment.
 
yeah, i've seen that video. that's not the gen2 sheath though. i'm not sure that makes a difference, but it's not the sheath i'm talking about.

in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zPnBLAEIJ8&feature=related, you can see that the dude uses the old sheath that you are talking about to mount the esee pouch. if the pouch fits, the molle backing should fit too, since they use the same holes. i'm not sure if this is true, but theoretically, it should work.

here is the new sheath i was referring to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfU-fVscXHg

supposedly, you can mount the sheath on a tek-lok or molle clips. that should make the spacing of the grommets the same. i'm not sure though... i've never held molle anything before. hence the asking.
 
:rolleyes:Huh, I stand corrected! The measurments on the ESEE sheath are 1 1/2" o.c. vertical between eye-lets (so 3" net) for MOLLE or tek-lok attachment, and 2 3/8" horizontal (straddling the blade). I was under the (demonstrably incorrect) impression that the BK2 sheaths were just barely too wide to accommodate the ESEE attachments. But as i don't have both knives, I'll just shut-up now.:( Maybe I'd better retake those measurements...
 
I have the ESEE 5 kydex sheath, BK2 1st generation kydex sheath, and the BK2 2nd generation injection molded sheath.

I don't know if the MOLLE attachment that ESEE sells will work on the BK2 injection molded sheath, but the belt clip mount and accessory pouch from ESEE do line up and can be mounted on the 2nd generation sheath.

I will be posting another Becker video on my Youtube channel which will show this modification.
 
I have a second generation BK2, and I just received the ESEE 5/6 m.o.l.l.e. back and accessory pouch.

The back fits perfectly, the screw holes line up to a T. The bulge of the sheath that allows the top of the knife handle into the sheath gets in the way a little, but luckily the material of the backing is flexible. The holes line up.

The pouch, however... The bottom two screw holes of the BK2 sheath DO NOT line up with the bottom two holes of the pouch. On the pouch, and presumably, the ESEE 5/6 sheath, the mold remains a constant width, whereas the BK2 sheath tapers down to a rounded edge. I think your only option will be to purchase an ESEE 5 sheath, but I do not know if it will fit the profile of the BK2.

Other than that, I love this sheath and pouch, they just don't fit my current sheath. I will either be purchasing a new sheath or returning the backing and pouch to ESEE.

Hope this helps, and if anyone can tell me whether or not the ESEE 5 sheath will fit the BK2, I would most appreciate it.

Thanks
Paz
 
the last 2 posts ( 1 from safari outfitter and 1 from paz) seem to contradict each other. one says that the pouch fits on the new bk2 sheath (as seen on youtube) the other says that it doesn't fit. Does anyone have access to pictures to prove or dispell this. I have contacted esee and they claim that both molle back and pouch are not compatible.

it is also my understanding that they use the same holes. so if one fits shouldn't the other. does anyone have access to exact specs on the hole spacing or dimensions.

If they are not compatible...does anyone have other suggestions for attaching pouches to the bk2 sheath.

We need to find a way to bed this topic to bed once and for all, you can find unfinished or unproven information all around the net.

thanks
 
the last 2 posts ( 1 from safari outfitter and 1 from paz) seem to contradict each other. one says that the pouch fits on the new bk2 sheath (as seen on youtube) the other says that it doesn't fit. Does anyone have access to pictures to prove or dispell this. I have contacted esee and they claim that both molle back and pouch are not compatible.

it is also my understanding that they use the same holes. so if one fits shouldn't the other. does anyone have access to exact specs on the hole spacing or dimensions.

If they are not compatible...does anyone have other suggestions for attaching pouches to the bk2 sheath.

We need to find a way to bed this topic to bed once and for all, you can find unfinished or unproven information all around the net.

thanks

So, I will expound, with photographic evidence!

The 2nd Gen BK2 sheath has a total of 10 holes for screws; 6 occur before the taper towards the business end of the blade. The pair closest to the handle of the knife, when sheathed, are not used for anything with the ESEE accessories. The next two pair, the last four holes before the sheath tapers, are used for either

A) All four extended screws included with the molle back or
B) The upper two holes are used with the pouch AND molle back, while the lower two are connecting only the back and the sheath.

Now, if option B is chosen (meaning, you have the back and pouch in play), then the problem arises for the bottom two screw holes on the SHEATH. The taper causes the screw holes of the sheath to be off by about 0.25" on the sharp side, and about 0.125" on the spine side.

Here are the pics, sorry for the lack of focus, this camera is from 2002, which means I can't get too close without the flash destroying all clarity. As you can HOPEFULLY tell, I simply lashed the pouch down on the south side of the sheath using paracord and one of those plastic retention adjustment thingies (that's the technical term). Personally, I like the paracord on the bottom, it saved me from having to send the pouch back and go hunting for a replacement...

Also, note that I removed the upper half of the molle back, due to a lack of webbing on the shoulder strap of the pack I use to carry this on.

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I hope this alleviates some confusion.

*** Also, it can clearly be seen in the last two pics that the back and pouch only share two screws, not all four. The pouch uses the top two and the bottom two pre-taper screwholes, whereas the back uses the top and middle two. This is due to the shape of the Becker sheath; I am sure that the ESEE 5 sheath lines up with all six screws, allowing the user to connect at either point, or buy more screws and connect at all points.
 
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You're most welcome... And I wouldn't exactly call them "incompatible", it just takes a little creativity to get what you want, as with most mods. I fully recommend the ESEE accessories, just buy some paracord and use your brain, that's what separates us from the monkeys!
 
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