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BK9 vs Kershaw Outcast

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I am giving a great deal of thought to buying the Outcast. My favorite knife currently is my custom D2 skinner.

it holds an edge better than anything i've ever owned.... I also love all my kershaw folders, so i am thinking i might pick one up

but i really want to know what i'm getting into before i drop 60 bucks.

Does anyone have both?
 
All I have to say is 1095 cro-van is way more versatile than D2! Oh and I did have both but I no longer have the Outcast,no reason except my brother wanted it so I gave it to him. The BK9 on the other hand.......you would have to pry it from my cold dead hands! And even then idk.
 
I had the kershaw. Sold it and got the bk9. The BK is stronger, the kershaw gets very thin at the handle. And I have no issues with edge retention.
 
well then, i think i'll just spend that money on getting a kick ass kydex sheath for my BK9 and BK7... i really want something for the 9 that can easily lash to my molle pack...

BK9 will be my ultra survival EOTWAWKI knife.

I convexed the edge on my BK7 a few days back, and i'm going to take it out and hack shit up this weekend
 
Good choice!

EDIT: I hate to give you more ideas but have you looked at the kabar cutlass?
 
I got one of the Chestnut Ridge kydex sheaths for my 9 and I love it! It is easy to make it Molle compatible as well.
 
no pictures yet? geez. i come here for pictures, and shitty sheath reviews ;)
 
I stripped and convexed my outcast. It is a chopping beast. Its on vacation at my buddies place in New York right now.

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I have both, and the BK9 shaved out of the box. Outcast did`nt.
Whit that recurved blade, it`s a pain in the a.. to regrind it... The handle is too thin for my taste, but nothing some ranger-band
or bisycle inner-tubing would`nt fix....

All this aside, the Outcast has now become one chopping-machine, but I would take myu BK over the Outcast any time...
 
Thanks OLJ.

was vaguely wondering what the heck an outkast looked like, but not enuff to google it LOL
 
Good choice!

EDIT: I hate to give you more ideas but have you looked at the kabar cutlass?

I gave my Cutlass away because I freakin' HATED IT. It was heavy, and chopped like crap IMO. It would take a lot of edge work to get that thing useable to my standards. THe BK9 SLAUGHTERED it in my own chop tests.

D2...? Meh. Screw around and you can snap it. I don't think there is a better all around outdoor knife steel than 1095CV.

Want to know how to really compare? Google and Youtube "________(knife name) Fail" Thats how you see. I almost went off the reservation and bought an RTAKII....until I did the search. You will find next to no Becker Fails out there. And usually it'll be some dummy sticking the blade between two blocks of concrete and jumping on it....something WAAAY outside the intended use of the blade.
 
BK-9 is a great knife. Does a bunch of things decently. I personally like the balance, weight, and dynamics of a Kabar Kukri over it though.

Have you thought about other Kabar chopper offerings?

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I gave my Cutlass away because I freakin' HATED IT. It was heavy, and chopped like crap IMO. It would take a lot of edge work to get that thing useable to my standards. THe BK9 SLAUGHTERED it in my own chop tests.

weird, mine came like a razor. newer batch maybe?

the worksharp tool should take that tool and do a nice profile on it. then make it buttah smooth, and sharp, after that.. well, you know. for the price, it's hard to complain (but someone will) :>

my $25 knife doesn't have a quality sheath like my $200 knife does.
 
weird, mine came like a razor. newer batch maybe?

the worksharp tool should take that tool and do a nice profile on it. then make it buttah smooth, and sharp, after that.. well, you know. for the price, it's hard to complain (but someone will) :>

my $25 knife doesn't have a quality sheath like my $200 knife does.

Tried my Worksharp. No luck. Who knows? It wasn't going to get used anyway with all the other choppers I have.

My question is: What the heck is that in the bottom of the picture in post #14??

I'm also curious about the new Combat Kukri. I like the looks of it over the older one.
 
D2...? Meh. Screw around and you can snap it. I don't think there is a better all around outdoor knife steel than 1095CV.

I've had the same thoughts, and not really with respect to D2. There are a lot of variables in knife construction- steel type, grind, heat treat, and with respect to a hard use knife there are even little details such as how the blade transitions into the tang, are there points with stress concentrations, etc. A blade can come from an expensive maker, look good on paper, look good in person, but under hard use it might not stand up. I've watched some of the different knife tests to destruction and noticed that some of the expensive high-reputation blades didn't cut it, and some of the ultra-cheap blades turned out to be near indestructible. So you can't tell by the looks of the blade, either find where someone else tested it or test it yourself. That's why I am a fan of Becker and Cold Steel- the knives have proven themselves. I don't care what other people think of Lynn Thompson, and I promised not to say anything more about the recent deal with the tweeners, but the knives themselves have been proven to work. And at the other extreme some of the ultra-expensive Busse's didn't stand up either.

I have a lot of Kershaws and even have one in the mail to me right now, I also have a lot of Benchmades and like them, but I noticed that the Cold Steel SRK did well in destruction tests where the very similar Benchmade didn't. For that reason I am suspicious of any knife intended for hard use until I can find that it has proven itself.
 
I've had the same thoughts, and not really with respect to D2. There are a lot of variables in knife construction- steel type, grind, heat treat, and with respect to a hard use knife there are even little details such as how the blade transitions into the tang, are there points with stress concentrations, etc. A blade can come from an expensive maker, look good on paper, look good in person, but under hard use it might not stand up. I've watched some of the different knife tests to destruction and noticed that some of the expensive high-reputation blades didn't cut it, and some of the ultra-cheap blades turned out to be near indestructible. So you can't tell by the looks of the blade, either find where someone else tested it or test it yourself. That's why I am a fan of Becker and Cold Steel- the knives have proven themselves. I don't care what other people think of Lynn Thompson, and I promised not to say anything more about the recent deal with the tweeners, but the knives themselves have been proven to work. And at the other extreme some of the ultra-expensive Busse's didn't stand up either.

I have a lot of Kershaws and even have one in the mail to me right now, I also have a lot of Benchmades and like them, but I noticed that the Cold Steel SRK did well in destruction tests where the very similar Benchmade didn't. For that reason I am suspicious of any knife intended for hard use until I can find that it has proven itself.

Really?? Cold Steel has more fails than anybody. There are a few solids in there...SRK being one. But their reputation leaves a lot to be desired. Especially making "Leatherneck" knives out of kitchen cutlery steel that bends the first time you try to baton with it.

That being said...To be fair I do like SOME of their products. Took possesion of a Special Forces Shovel 2 days ago, and their Pepper Spray is brewed in Hell itself. Back in the day (like 15 years ago) almost everything they made was solid. Now they seem to put more emphasis on churning out cheap stuff. I even considered a Trailmaster Bowie for 2 seconds before it failed the "Fail-Search" test. Thats why I stick to Kabar-Becker. They rarely ever fail.
 
My question is: What the heck is that in the bottom of the picture in post #14??

I'm also curious about the new Combat Kukri. I like the looks of it over the older one.

That's the grass machete.

I am also anticipating the new kukri. Dunno about the sheath, though, might have to send it back to Toooj....
 
C_Tanner, how did you manage to find something that a worksharp won't sharpen?

I managed to make the HANDLE of a butter knife shaving sharp just to see if it could be done ( i have too much time on my hands)

as far as i know, if it's metal worksharp can sharpen it
 
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