Black BUG Twins

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some previews of the Twins; BUG Proto 1 & 2.


these are not quite done.

BUG heads on Gen 1 Mk 4-B endo-/exo-skeletal composite handle, washed down in Black Resin, for blackness within blackness.
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Shark's Tooth Beard.
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Hooked Penetrator Poll.
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Lurking in the shadows, waiting for de-zombie-fication ops. i'd settle for Commies.
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can't wait to take mine for a swim.

they are the most vicious things i have built so far.

that's saying something.

nuff said.


vec
 
your mean, this wasn't a sale? :)

nope.

just sharin' with mah padnahz.


if you could hold a BUG, you'd know why they are hard to sell - hehehehe! - they scream "MINE!!!!"

i want to have Survival Sheath Systems make me a double-badass-shoulder rig for some coming up. - spread the Love... of de-zombie-fication....:D:thumbup:

i love Robert H's stuff.

i've got some other ones cookin' for the Investors though, and more BUG heads coming in.

we should have some of the BUGs to offer the IGH lads and lassies in a week or so, God Willing.


I want to do some gray camo ones to match the SEAL Fast Boats here.

that'd be a hoot.

vec
 
Whoot whoot, looks good Vec. Stealth bugs.... Cant wait for my dirty/ orange bug. It is amazing the stuff you are turning out, and the quality and pride you take in your products. Keep up the outstanding work.
 
Well, you finally got me to shoot your Erica an email. Hope you're happy. ;)
 
I really like the head on those, ever think of a hawk with a beard?

ya mean a more conventional beard? - not my style, brother.


the Shark's Tooth is superior, for my purposes at least.


it's less delicate, you get similar penetration, and if you are fighting, the wound channels are better with the Sharks' Tooth design - plus you can scallop with this, while you can't much with a normal pointy beard.

neck traps and such with a normal beard can be slowed down with a hand block - but the Shark's Tooth will just bite through fingers, etc., with a hard pull.

its general shape can be very nice for necking all the way up to the head with your hand safely behind the secondary edge, or for fighting the hawk in a reverse hold - a conventional beard will just get stuck like a fishook in a soft part of the body - the 'Tooth will rip out. It won't take much to go from a concealed carry cupped in a hand behind a forearm, to quickly imparing an attacker's visual field with the off hand, while you put the hawk betwen his legs and rip at his femorals and the back of his knees. then he's yours....

if you want to hook a body or something with the hawk, like to pull it away from an IED or something, ...you would just insert the 'Tooth lightly and pull away from its longitudinal axis, so it acts with a prying motion instead of a slicing motion, and doesn't cut through anything that resists.

lots to think about and leverage in a BUG design.

the BUG's poll does similar things to a spike on this one too (increased PSI), while still allowing you to hammer, and not getting lodged, like a good spike can.

- i still like spike hawks intensely, don't get me wrong - the BUG is just a design that i wanted for myself, to stay firmly in the middle of a General Purpose tool, while milking the characteristics for almost all they were worth.

there are all sorts of things to still try. And no wrong answers - these heads are just the direction i would like to go, for my own uses. - if anyone else likes them - great.

BUGs are the most fun I've had in a while.

and it shops kindling. :cool::thumbup:


thanks for lookin'.

vec
 
The Bug Head Twin's are Awesome Vec ! They look Great In Black "Black Bug Head's !" Thank's for sharing the picture's,
 
vector..."you have come out of the dungeon" and what you made is good.
I would bet one or both of these are going to Dirt time with you....
Another item to add to my list....
 
Hey Vec.

I was going to email the question, but it might benefit others, so. . .

Why recommend a short beard edge, rather than a long one? I'd think so long as you have enough relief behind it to choke up to the head, you'd want a longer edge. More rippin' and slicin' as you pull it out of wherever you stuck it.
 
Hey Vec.

I was going to email the question, but it might benefit others, so. . .

i appreciate that, brother. Thank You.

it's good to get everyone involved in the Hawk Project - that's what i am trying to do. Break the Old Model.

Why recommend a short beard edge, rather than a long one? I'd think so long as you have enough relief behind it to choke up to the head, you'd want a longer edge. More rippin' and slicin' as you pull it out of wherever you stuck it.


that's a great question, brother!

let's brainstorm for a moment about that. - my answers are just based on my thoughts and experiences - i reckon there are a lot of other good ways to do the same thing, so don't be shy, brethren.


i am gonna blow this answer, but i'll give it a try;


short answer? - look at Nature!

there are all sorts of things long-extinct in the ground with wide teeth, meanwhile, sharks, cats, canine, and even beavers, keep it short.

Pounds per Square Inch (PSI) is the answer to the next question.

.......

ever tried to cut paper with a polished razor's edge on your favorite blade? it can get out of the way.

as a man who has been in personal combat with a blade, let me tell ya - flesh gets out of the way incredibly (i didn't learn that the hard way fortunately, i was the guy getting slashed at that time) - and that's just on the outside of the body - vasculature, like those big aortas all the knife instructors orgasm about - they get out of the way even better. - so you are already seeing the advantage of a small bit over a larger one! Marine Knife Combatives used to stress the value of the slow poke over the quick slash. - more PSI.

- i can get into an enemy neck or thigh with my little BUGs with a push, where it will take me a lot more force (gross movement, like swings, which leave me vulnerable and slow - it's all about PSI) to get in there with something with a big bit.

..........

so what does this mean to hawk beards?

to me, it means i can do one of two things (with some variations);

(1) i can make a short Shark's Tooth.
(which BTW, also lets you hold the head Cane Style - which is useful in Utility as well as Combatives - if there was only a little choil under a longer edge, you would cause chaos to yourself gripping the head probably, especially during extraction if the butt spike got lodged in an enemy eye socket or something - whoopsgettin'aheadofmyself).

a Smaller Tooth also means WEIGHT SAVINGS usually.

if a good hawk was just a wedge of steel on the end of a stick, that's what i would be doing - but it is not - a proper hawk is a Ballet of Physics and Engineering. this is why you'll pick up a hawk that looks shit hot and it just sucks in performance, and the opposite too; where you get this humble little hawk and it winds up with you all the time, because you can get it there, deal with the problems you face, and get home. Don't get me wrong, new features can be very good, but they usually aren't. if i add something to a hawk, with very few exceptions (aesthetics, for example), i want it to have multiple uses and real value - otherwise it is just another fancy lure catching a fisherman, so to speak.


the Indians new exactly what they were doing when they made TeePees, Hawks, Travois, Antelope Shirts, Buffalo Bows, etc. - because they were engineers by necessity.

end of Option One.

-OR-​

(2) i can SERRATE a longer sharpened under-edge/beard thingy, like an elongated Shark's Tooth.

i would lose the cane-hold ability with the serrated Tooth option, plus without a really good tooth design, the serrations would be delicate - i will no doubt try it anyway. :cool::thumbup:

plus, the weight gain.

a War Hammer would probably be a great choice for a wider Tooth.

i just hope the War Hammer guy doesn't go against a Hawk guy with a long knife or machete.

..............

so that's where i am at.

i have a lot of head design ideas, some which include serrations or other features not normally associated with a hawk.

lots to do. - until i get there, i am BUG'n OUT, MAN!!! :thumbup:


....har....!

vec
 
I was thinking the 'hawk guy might be in trouble against the war hammer guy with a kukri or Uddha sword. ;)

For those that don't know, an Uddha sword looks like this:
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I was thinking the 'hawk guy might be in trouble against the war hammer guy with a kukri or Uddha sword. ;)

if he was strong enough to wield both of those at the same time, i think i'd run for it and shoot him from a distance - har!

For those that don't know, an Uddha sword looks like this:
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awesome blade, brother.

very sexy.

vec
 
Oh, I'm gonna NEED to be gettin' me one of those!! Let's see what can I sell around here, my roommate's dog is old but she might fetch a couple bucks . . . .
 
The beauty of these hawks lies in the purpose built, no nonsense, gotta love that!
I really like Vecs way of writing, wish we could do that to here where i live, probably have the whole left side political thinking community on my back :)
Sweet hawks mate!

Regards, Ruben
 
OK Vec, I gotta ask.

What would make me want a BUG head over a regular Trail Hawk head, with the Shark's tooth. I'm not convinced on the sorta-spike instead of a regular hammer poll.

BTW, now ya got me rethinking the custom head I was thinking of due to the weight. Since it's really just a Shark Tooth head with a longer cutting edge. So my twitching wallet fingers are wondering ifn I should secure a BUG head, or wait on a Shark Tooth with a regular hammer poll.

Oh yeah, and not all kukris are heavy. HI makes the Sirupate and Kobra ones that are specifically for fighting, but with the forward curved blade, are better at "limbing" than an equivalent length and weight conventional blade.

Something for you to ponder. . .:D
 
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