Black Raven double bit

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stevewest

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Interesting to watch the auction on the bay right now - nice looking Black Raven double bit. Its up to $2,000.00. Two bidders going at it, will be fun to see where it goes before somebody blinks.
 
stevewest said:
Interesting to watch . . .
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Just speaking for myself. it looks kinda weird. Might make a good user/truck axe though.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ant...354104?hash=item25ce71cb78:g:Rv4AAOSwo4pYj7pE

I saw that earlier and thought about asking the seller if they would reduce the shipping if they sawed the handle off and just sent the head. But after thinking about it, I don't really need another double bit right now.


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I really do not understand the hafting choice. Nice looking head - somebody has put a lot of work into it. Looks like its going to pay off. I suspect there may be a bit of buyers remorse when the high bidder takes a long hard look at where this went.
 
You know... Thats insane.
I am just going to have to start making counterfeit axes...
Even if they sold at 3-500$ each, Wont take long before the tooling paid for itself.
 
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One of the bidders going after the Black Raven is up to 650.00 for a Plumb Champion single bit that I'd swear I saw sell for 300.00 a month or two ago.
 
The emboss on these was a gold colour from the factory. I wonder what else has been 'doctored' on it. Anyway if it goes for 2 Grand you can bet your life it won't show up in someone's camping kit or in a wood pile somewhere.
 
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I wonder what sort of dye he used to patina that axe.
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I gave this no name Michigan a vinegar bath and hung it on a straight 36 handle. It is a beater axe. It has had blo, wd40, on the head since the bath and only used on oak. It has a gold color starting. Im sure that does not help. But it is interesting.
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This is the sad part of any collecting hobby. Insecure, egocentric collectors who are so desperate to have a toy to show off that they spend hundreds or thousands to buy some credibility.

If I do not find an axe, knife or other tool at a local sale or junk-shop for pocket-change then I do not have it. I have nothing against someone buying something through the mail that they are going to use, but if you are buying your stuff for top dollar on Ebay so you can run to these forums for pats on the back just for having more money than the next guy then you are a loser.
 
gben said:
This is the sad part of any collecting hobby. Insecure, egocentric collectors who are so desperate to have a toy to show off that they spend hundreds or thousands to buy some credibility.

If I do not find an axe, knife or other tool at a local sale or junk-shop for pocket-change then I do not have it. I have nothing against someone buying something through the mail that they are going to use, but if you are buying your stuff for top dollar on Ebay so you can run to these forums for pats on the back just for having more money than the next guy then you are a loser.
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hey cmon man, to each his own. We are all axe enthusiasts here and just because one guy has the means to pay whatever for an axe does not mean anyone should belittle him. I bet other owners of black raven axes are saying "hell yea" and rubbing their hands together at the prospect of their axe shooting up in value.

If i had millions of dollars I would literally buy whatever I want, irrespective of the cost, and I would care even less about what others think of my purchases.

I agree that is an insane amount of money to spend on an axe. But hey, if you have the money and that's specifically the one you want..then by all mean get it.
It must have been worth that amount to a couple of people at least otherwise they wouldnt bid on it.

Sometimes what your looking for is just not available. Maybe this guy has been waiting years for a really good condition black raven to finish off his collection.

Something is worth whatever anyone is willing to pay for it. All that matters is that the guy who bought it can justify its purchase to himself.

What we have learned is that some people are willing to pay 2k for an above average condition black raven with a weird handle. Does not make him a loser, quite the opposite as he can afford to drop 2k on an axe and does not need to justify it to anyone but himself.
 
nzedge is quite correct about price being dictated by supply and demand, but I'm onside with gben in agreeing that prices are becoming obscene. The featured item isn't NOS by any stretch of the imagination and has been thoroughly refurbished, or perhaps (heaven forbid the implication) even artificially aged.
If you were a serious collector years ago (pre-Internet) it was a hugely time consuming avocation to scout out prizes. Today all you need is an easy chair, ebay account and lots of moolah. The real surprise coming for egotistical and wealthy 'gatherers', though, is going to happen when entrepreneurs suddenly flood the market with expertly aged, or newly discovered caches of Black Ravens. Kelly probably made 100s of thousands of these all of which are devoid of serial numbering or other conclusive means of proving authenticity.
Even within this forum we've experienced Collin's, Collin and strange crown Collins Hudson Bay pattern axes that were in circulation 100 years ago.
 
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