Blackjack Blackmour Dirk Parkerized

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Bigwater1

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I have a Blackjack Blackmoor Dirk that is parkerized and wonder if that is unusual as I cannot find any reference to this finish. I has no country of origin is marked simply Blackjack Knives Blackmoor Dirk with the two cards with the blade centered on the ace of spades. Any information on this would be appreciated. I have attached pictures and corrected my spelling error. As far as I can see it does not appear to be refinished and I suspect it was US made as that does not require country of origin. Someone pointed out it might be an uncatalogued version with military finish and I suspect that is what I have. It did not come with a sheath.
 
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A Photo of your knife would help us to understand exactly what you are talking about.
Your description is unusual because:
(1) all Blackmoor Dirks were made in the Kinryu factory in Seki Japan and
marked "Made in Japan" under the cards/logo and above the words "Blackmoor Dirk".
(2) All of them were satin finished.
If authentic perhaps someone parkerized or ceracoated it?
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IIRC, the Blackmoor Dirk was stainless, and stainless doesn't take parkerizing, as far as I know. It may be a different finish, or it could be a fake....
 
There are newer Blackmoors that are made in China, but they are marked as such and all the ones I've seen are also stainless. If it indeed says Blackmour with a "u", instead of Blackmoor with "oo", then I'm definitely thinking fake.
 
justjed said:
IIRC, the Blackmoor Dirk was stainless, and stainless doesn't take parkerizing, as far as I know. It may be a different finish, or it could be a fake....
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The blade was Aus6 and yes you're right, you can't parkerize Stainless. Stainless knives are sometimes be fluorine coated to be black. Or just painted I guess.....
Hope OP posts a pic.
 
Bigwater1 said:
I have a Blackjack Blackmour Dirk that is parkerized and wonder if that is unusal as I cannot find any reference to this finish. I has no country of origin is marked simply Blackjack Knives Blackmour Dirk with the two cards with the blade centered on the ace of spades. Any information on this including possible value would be appreciated.
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This one stumped me and inspired some research. I looked through a lot of materials and finally found one reference to what I believe is your knife. In a 1990 cutlery catalog, I discovered among the Blackjack listings the following reference next to the description of the standard Blackmoor Dirk:

"Also available: Blackmoor Dirk, Military Finish"

Unfortunately, there was no other information supplied and no picture. Also, the catalog had its own inventory system, so no Blackjack model numbers were used.

What particularly intrigues me about your piece is the absence of a country-of-origin marking. Every example I've seen of both the original Japanese Blackmoor Dirk and the newer Chinese reboot has been labeled.

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It seems that if an otherwise standard Blackmoor was simply coated or bead-blasted, the same blade markings, including country-of-origin, would be present.

I may have an old Blackjack catalog somewhere in my collection. If I find it and it sheds further light on this, I'll let you know. In the meanwhile, like the other eminent knife historians who have chimed in on this thread, I'd really like to see some pictures of your knife.

-Steve
 
Thanks for the information. I took some pictures, but apparently cannot upload them. It is clearly NOT refinished as the Blackjack logo is bright and clear and definitely does not have the country of origin which probably means it was made in US, not China or Japan, as US products do not require country of origin, only foreign made products imported to US. I will post some pictures on my face book page under Bruce Davis.
 
Are you sure that it is not a Blackmour 2000? These have a different configuration than the commonly known blackjack dirk. They were made in effingham Illinois when in a transitional period of EK knives and blackjack knives. They are bead blasted 12C27 steel and marked as either blackjack or Ek knives. They have a sheath with a pin that secures the knife through one of the handles holes. If your knife does not look like the pics shown then it may not be what you assume. Search the almighty internet for pictures of both. There is a blackmour 2000 up for auction on the bay right now.
 
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Bigwater1 said:
Thanks for the information. I took some pictures, but apparently cannot upload them. It is clearly NOT refinished as the Blackjack logo is bright and clear and definitely does not have the country of origin which probably means it was made in US, not China or Japan, as US products do not require country of origin, only foreign made products imported to US. I will post some pictures on my face book page under Bruce Davis.
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You can upload your pictures to any picture hosting site. Then post the url to that photo.

Regarding the post above, the Blackjack Blackmoor Dirk and the later Blackmoor 2000 are considerably different. But a confirmation from the OP would be extremely helpful.
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Yes, I am aware of the difference as I own both the Blackmoor 2000 along with two Blackmoor dirks and a Tartan Dirk. I am also looking for a sheath for one of my Blackmoor dirks.
 
OK, await your pics.
Meantime, a bad photo, but I found this. A Blackjack Blackmoor Dirk with what appears to be a "military finish" and the country of origin line missing.
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They bead blasted some of them as shown in the picture from KenHash. They were $69.95 from the Cutlery Shoppe in 1986 or so.
 
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