Blade Chipping - blown out of proportion?

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There have been some threads about blade chipping. But when I look at all my knives, at least the ones that are not perfectly sharpened and honed/stropped, I see a few to a lot of very small little nicks in the edge.

But then isn't that just part of using a knife?

I guess I figure there a problem if I go to cut something and I get a little shower of steel dandruf.

Is there a standard definition of blade chipping?
 
I've always been under the impression that chipping at the thinnest part of a sharpened edge is normal, depending on what kind of blade and how it is used. the problem I'd have is if a knife were chipping too deeply, past the very thin edge and into the meat of the blade. I cut a lot of copper cable and that stuff will chip the fine edge of a blade. But it doesn't take much to sharpen these tiny nicks out. Kind of like little homemade serrations.
 
Brittle failure is the sudden and explosive formation and propogation of cracks without significant deformation.

-Cliff
 
“Chips” can also be caused by fatigue failure. If a small portion of the edge is bent one way and then the other, the weakened steel may chip out.

If you are getting alot of small chips in the edge, you could try resharpening to a slightly steeper angle to see if that helps.


-Frank
 
I guess I expect I little more out of a super steel my 154cm chipped so bad I used the 204 for a half hour and it was still there. had to send it in. A week later I had to send it in again because of the same problem. :eek:

so am I over reacting? :D
 
IMO it depends on the knife and steel and what you are doing with it. For example if you were using a 440C knife to cut cardboard and it chipped that would be a very good reason to return it. But if you were using the same knife to chop very hard wood or even metal then chipping would be acceptable, even more so if you are strikeing the wood/metal with great impact force. Then there are steels that are known to be a little on the brittle side like BG-42 for one, which usualy tends to micro chip under hard use but will not chip at all under most normal tasks. Like my PCKS 110 w/BG-42, it will start to micro chip if pressed too hard, this is due to the steel used, the hollow grind/thin edge, and the high RC it is HT'd to. But it works fine under most normal tasks. But its not a do it all prybar type knife by any means, that was not its designed purpose. Then there are steels that are very hard to chip like L6, L6 is a tough tool steel, and that is what my custom 4" FB is made from and it has never chipped and i have put this knife through hell and back, i have worked it so hard that it was so dull i could not see where the edge was at all, it was like it was just gone(chopping concrete will do that to a knife) But it was not chipped, the edge just rolled and deformed under the abuse and bent, but it did not chip. So like i said it depends on the use and the steel. IMO if its not a big enough chip that you cant shapen it out then its not a problem unless its a tough steel and should not have chipped at all.
 
Knife11 :

I guess I expect I little more out of a super steel my 154cm chipped so bad I used the 204 for a half hour and it was still there.

ATS-34 / 154CM is one of the more brittle cutlery steels and is prone to chipping.

-Cliff
 
Thin the edge down a lot, say to 10 degrees or less per side and then put a steep secondary bevel (25-35 degrees per side) that goes about a half a mm deep. This should stop the chipping and you won't lose that much cutting ability.

-Cliff
 
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