Blade Combination Question

afishhunter

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What is the proper term for a pocket knife with this blade combination?:
Spear Point Primary.
Pen Secondary.
Spey Secondary.
Coping Blade Secondary.

The pattern is a Canoe, so I'm guessing it could be referred to as a "Gunboat Canoe" OR is a "Gunboat" limited to a three blade Canoe pattern?

I'm not sure, but I think the above four blades are used on Whittlers?

If so, would this be classified as a "Gunboat Canoe"/"Gunboat" or "Gunboat Whittler", or simply a "Whittler", if a "Gunboat only has three blades?
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Thanks.
 
I don't know the official answer to your question, so I'll just give you some random personal opinions.

Case "gunboats" or "big gunboat canoes" (pattern # x394, I think) not only have more and different blades (usually spear main, sheepsfoot, and spey) than a "regular" canoe (spear/pen), but they have a bigger frame (4 1/4" compared to 3 5/8"). How big is your Hammer Brand 4-blade canoe?
My personal "habit" is to call any knife with a canoe frame of any size and 3 or more blades a gunboat, but I often don't know what I'm talking about. Here are several examples:
Rodgers-Wostenholm 1978 NKCA 3-blade canoe: 3 5/8" closed, spear/spey/pen blade combo. I call it a gunboat, but online I think it's most often called a 3-blade canoe (but who knows how much expertise the various posters have?).


Frank Buster Fight'n Rooster 4-blade canoe: 3 5/8" closed, spear/spey/pen/coping? blade combo. I call this one a gunboat, too, but online it's often called a 4-blade canoe, or a gunboat, or a 4-blade gunboat. In size and blade selection, this is like your Hammer Brand, I think.


Rough Rider black-lip pearl gunboat canoe: 4 1/2" closed, spear/spey/sheepsfoot blade combo. I think this is called a gunboat by me and everyone else who's aware of its existence.


Notice that in terms of blade placement, the first and third examples (and Case gunboats) are similar to a stockman, with main blade and one secondary on one end, and the other secondary on the opposite end. But I've seen some 3-blade canoes that have the blades arranged as a whittler, with main alone on one end and both secondaries on the opposite end; if such knives are regular canoe length, or smaller, they're of course called canittlers.

Here's an interesting 4-blade Case canoe I stumbled upon tonight:
https://www.casexx.com/Library/HistoryHandleBook/HistoryDetails.asp?ProductCode=1602N

That Case, your Hammer Brand, and my Fight'n Rooster all have 2 blades (big and small) on each end, a configuration of blades I associate with a congress pattern. But I don't think there's a genuine sheepsfoot blade among the 12 blades on those 3 knives, which is very UNlike congress knives. So maybe I'll just refer to those knives as "sheepless congress lost at sea". Think that will catch on?

- GT
 
How big is your Hammer Brand 4-blade canoe?
Standard size Canoe pattern; 3.625 inch closed.

I've zero plans (or desire) to get a "butter bean" size.
I haven't found a larger Canoe/Gunboat/Canittler that's inside my budget that has called to me.


WHY is the "Butter Bean" name given to the small canoe?
The retired pro boxer and MMA (super heavy weight) champion, Eric Echt, known as "Butter Bean" never stepped into the ring at under 340 or 350 pounds.

Y'all should watch some of his battles on You Tube.)
(He earned his name: ate naught but butter beans (which he supposedly detests) at the start of his career to get under the max weight of 410 or 415 pounds for the "Iron Man" competition.
 
I'd call it a gunboat canoe generally, but a whittling canoe also seems fitting. But I've seen people list them as either gunboat canoes, or canoe whittlers.
 
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