Blade Divot

[Poorboyhere]

Hey fellas, I’m new here... so... give me a break! If this topic is already covered, I was unable to find it.

I have bought somewhere around 175 knives in the past few months alone, from RR, Case, H&R, GEC, Queen, Parker, Canal Street, Fight’n Rooster, Bulldog, Kissing Cranes, Moore Maker, Schatt & Morgan, German Bull, and so on.

On several of my pill busters and trappers I have noticed a divot in the blade edge about center of blade. Looks like the blade hits the backspring where the center pin goes through when snapping shut. It’s driving me nuts! I take good care of my knives and carry a different one every day. I wax, polish and properly clean and store them all. (You can laugh but my knives are cleaner than yours )

my question; what can I do to prevent the “divot” from occuring/getting worse? I have enough knives that I’ll never have to sharpen one and they’ll hand down to my son as carried, but virtually brand new knives. I’d prefer also, divot-less knives!

any suggestions or known fixes? I considered finding some sort of small file and doing some precision filing to the BS in that area but finding that size file shaped the way I need it will be impossible... not to mention the probability of either going to far or not being able to go far enough to remedy the problem.

 

[Poorboyhere]

And one more thing... does it hurt the overall value of a knife? I know it would if I was buying it with such a known problem.[/QUOTE]

 

[kamagong]

I have bought somewhere around 175 knives in the past few months alone...

175 knives!? Methinks you were poorly named.

 

[Hickory n steel]

Maybe put a little piece of popsicle stick in there towards the tip of the blade.

 

[Poorboyhere]

175 knives!? Methinks you were poorly named.

Haha, well, I find that the name “poorboyhere” is rarely ‘taken’ anywhere I’ve ever tried to use it.

 

[btb01]

175 knives!? Methinks you were poorly named.

Maybe the name was applicable after he bought the knives?

Blade rap happens on some knives. The only way to fix it is to sharpen the blade. Often one or two sharpenings will be enough to stop the blade from hitting the backspring. Otherwise, the best way to keep it from happening is to close your knife gently (no fun, I know).

I’ve used a small piece of leather down in the blade well as a solution for a knife that wasn’t fixed after a couple sharpenings. It worked well.

 

[Poorboyhere]

Maybe put a little piece of popsicle stick in there towards the tip of the blade.

I considered something similar.. but wood can hold moisture and potentially cause corrosion. I do store my knives with several packs of those moisture absorbing baggies you find in shipping boxes though, so maybe that would prevent the wood from absorbing any moisture? Idk.

 

[Poorboyhere]

Maybe the name was applicable after he bought the knives?

Blade rap happens on some knives. The only way to fix it is to sharpen the blade. Often one or two sharpenings will be enough to stop the blade from hitting the backspring. Otherwise, the best way to keep it from happening is to close your knife gently (no fun, I know).

I’ve used a small piece of leather down in the blade well as a solution for a knife that wasn’t fixed after a couple sharpenings. It worked well.

Yeah, I have been closing them gently but it sucks, especially on the ones that snap real pretty! Lol. So do you not worry about the leather holding moisture and corroding the blade?

 

[kamagong]

Maybe the name was applicable after he bought the knives?

Hmmm...that could certainly be the case. Barrett, you my friend, are a thinker.

 

[Hickory n steel]

I considered something similar.. but wood can hold moisture and potentially cause corrosion. I do store my knives with several packs of those moisture absorbing baggies you find in shipping boxes though, so maybe that would prevent the wood from absorbing any moisture? Idk.

You could use a piece of leather and if the leather was well treated with conditioner or mink oil...ect I don't think it would absorb much moisture and cause much corrosion.
I've got a knife with a strip of leather inside it that I saturated well with mineral oil and after probably 4 years it's still fine.

 

[Poorboyhere]

Hmmm...that could certainly be the case. Barrett, you my friend, are a thinker.

So far my wife hasn’t complained but she has asked if I really need that many more knives. I asked how many pairs of shoes she needed. The subject was changed.

 

[Poorboyhere]

You could use a piece of leather and if well treated with a conditioner I don't think it would absorb much moisture and cause much corrosion.
I've got a knife with a strip of leather inside it that I saturated well with mineral oil and after probably 4 years it's still fine.

ahh.. I didn’t think about that. Good idea.

 

[btb01]

Yeah, I have been closing them gently but it sucks, especially on the ones that snap real pretty! Lol. So do you not worry about the leather holding moisture and corroding the blade?

I've had it that way for a couple years now and haven't had any problems. Like Hickory n steel suggests, I put some oil on the leather whenever I oil the knife (usually after carrying it, before putting it back in the drawer).

 

[btb01]

P Poorboyhere out of curiosity, could you tell us what specific knives you experience this with? Sometimes you'll find certain models are more prone to blade rap than others.

 

[Poorboyhere]

I've had it that way for a couple years now and haven't had any problems. Like Hickory n steel suggests, I put some oil on the leather whenever I oil the knife (usually after carrying it, before putting it back in the drawer).

I see. I might be able to make this work. I’m pretty certain I could sharpen them out and be fine but I doubt I’ll actually need to sharpen any of them except the ones which already have a divot.

 

[Poorboyhere]

P Poorboyhere out of curiosity, could you tell us what specific knives you experience this with? Sometimes you'll find certain models are more prone to blade rap than others.

Right off hand, I know I have a couple early 70’s Parker Seki OAM Pillbusters and a trapper. I think one of the others is a Fightin’ Rooster pillbuster. I’d have to look at them again to name the others. I’ve been unpacking around 5-10 knives a day and I haven’t gotten them all sorted in my knife case just yet.

 

[Poorboyhere]

Right off hand, I know I have a couple early 70’s Parker Seki OAM Pillbusters and a trapper. I think one of the others is a Fightin’ Rooster pillbuster. I’d have to look at them again to name the others. I’ve been unpacking around 5-10 knives a day and I haven’t gotten them all sorted in my knife case just yet.

The four I named actually just came in this week. I always test the blade snap, make sure they are well oiled, no scale cracks and verify they match the listing from where I purchased them. I’m 90% certain all four got their divot when I tested blade snap. I suppose I need a “test strip” of rubber or plastic to slip against the BS to test them from now on, and avoid the agony of opening a new-to-me knife only to close it and cause a divot.

 

[Misplaced Hillbilly]

I've had good luck trimming a strip from a drink bottle that fits snugly between the liners. In fact I acquired a nice Queen serpentine jack over the weekend, after carrying and using it Monday I noticed it had blade rap. I put the plastic shim in and problem solved. One good thing about the plastic is its tough and THIN, the reason I emphasize thin is it keeps the blade low so not to cause the tip to rise above the blade well.

 

[Poorboyhere]

I've had good luck trimming a strip from a drink bottle that fits snugly between the liners. In fact I acquired a nice Queen serpentine jack over the weekend, after carrying and using it Monday I noticed it had blade rap. I put the plastic shim in and problem solved. One good thing about the plastic is its tough and THIN, the reason I emphasize thin is it keeps the blade low so not to cause the tip to rise above the blade well.

So like just a regular water bottle? That seems like it would be too thin to stop the problem?

 

[Misplaced Hillbilly]

So like just a regular water bottle? That seems like it would be too thin to stop the problem?

I usually use a 20 oz. Pepsi bottle, regular water bottles probably would be to thin and cut through after a few times. You could probably do a double layer, it would add more cushioning so long as it doesn't raise the blade to much. I have on one knife put it where the kick meets the spring and that stopped it from hitting the spring completely. And was still thin enough it didn't raise the blade enough that the tip was proud.