Blade grind of my new 165

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Hello all. Please take a look at the following pictures. After waiting a solid week for the knife, it finally arrived. It is a Schrade Walden 165 with S/N on the left side. On the right side of the blade, along the grind, there is a section starting 2 1/4" from the hilt and extending forward toward the tip 1" where the section abruptly thins and then comes back to full. I have tried my best to take pictures showing this.

Thoughts?

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I am adding some new pictures to try to give a better overall impression of the knife and sheath. Hopefully I won't overwhelm you all with pictures.

I am trying to determine if this is the original grind, and if so, what could have hapened. Thank you all.

Greg

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I see several areas where the grind is uneven. Not only the "hollow" on blade right, but also along the spine on both sides. And the line between the primary and secondary grind. Is the non-symmetrical grind original to the knife from the factory? Possible, I suppose. There are, of course, other possibilities.

In reading through old records of annual sales meetings, the return of merchandise is discussed. Return authorizations, restock charges, and disposition of goods. A part of the disposition of goods included re-inspection of the knife and refinishing if needed including regrind and buffing, as well as new packaging before putting the knife back into inventory for shipping. This could be one of those dealer return knives that had serious corrosion problems and it received an aggressive refinishing.

It could be a warranty return knife that languished in a box on the warehouse shelf for years until the meltdown when the few remaining employees were told to finish up everything in inventory to boost the net worth for the October, 2004 auction. Employees were so engaged from the end of July through the October auction.

It could have been made in 1966/67 by an employee not adept at hand grinding this then-new sabre-ground pattern.

It could be an after-market refinish, recent or not, by someone trying to remove deep scratches, patina, or pepper spots. The crocus finish approximates the factory finish but... it looks too "fine" to me.

These are all just guesses at the possibilities. I suggest ignoring the current peppering. These knives can obtain that condition in under a year in the right circumstances. And condition indicates (BRL quote here... :D ) condition.

Michael

PS- Still a nice early example of a PRODUCTION knife, and I would not personally obsess over the uneven grind.:thumbup:
 
Michael,
As always, thank you for taking the time to weigh in and share your knowledge. As you were no doubt posting your response here in the forum, the seller was at the same time responding to my question to him for some history on the knife.

He said he originally purchased the knife at a gun show in 1980. What had impressed him was the fact it had a Schrade Walden stone with it. That's all I got. If it has been reworked it was apparently not by him and it was a long time ago. There is quite a bit of pepper on the right side, strangely enough, the same side as the dip.
 
Give me a few to take some nice shots. (flash off flash off flash off)
If I can't get them tonight I'll put them up tomorrow.
 
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