Blade Lubrication Story

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ARundrpillow

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I usually lube my folders with whatever I happen to have laying around. Usually Rem oil or another gun oil. I always get very similar results. It works very well. Smooth action. A few days ago I cleaned my ZT 0561 and decided to try some Hornaday One Shot case lube that I use for reloading. It evaporates and leaves behind a dry lube. Not exactly sure about it any more than that. So I gave it a little shot into the bearings and on the detent surfaces and WOW. I have never felt it even close to this smooth and fast. Blade just falls right down now under its own weight with no help. What an amazing difference. It has been approx 3 days and it is still just as smooth. Boarding on too smooth and easy to open. I will continue to use it daily and see if I find and draw backs or negatives about using this lube and report back but as of now i'm loving it. No sticky liquid to attract dirt, no drips or runs and it stays where you put it. I have never used a knife specific lube and I am sure some are great but this stuff is cheap and one can would last years

Oh yeah and it also completely fixed my sticky lock bar
 
I'd be careful with that stuff, at least while using it. The MSDS for Hornaday One Shot Case Lube lists 'n-Hexane' up to 75% as one of the hazardous ingredients. Some pretty nasty health effects are possible from inhalation or ingestion, and maybe via skin absorption as well. Quoted text below is from the 'Identification of Risks' section of the MSDS for the product (linked below the quote box):

"Hazard Identification:
Danger!
Flammable liquid and vapor. Danger of serious damage to health by prolonged exposure through inhalation.
Breathing vapors may cause drowsiness and dizziness. Causes eye and skin irritation. Toxic to aquatic organisms,
may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment. Possible risk of impaired fertility. Aspiration
hazard if swallowed. Can enter lungs and cause damage.
Hazard Statements (H): H225 - Highly flammable liquid and vapour. H304 - May be fatal if swallowed and enters
airways. H315 - Causes skin irritation. H336 - May cause drowsiness or dizziness. H361 - Suspected of damaging
fertility or the unborn child. H373 - May cause damage to organs through prolonged or repeated exposure. H411 -
Toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects.
Precautionary Statements (P): P210 - Keep away from heat/sparks/open flames/hot surfaces – No smoking. P261 -
Avoid breathing dust/fume/gas/mist/vapours/spray. P273 - Avoid release to the environment. P281 - Use personal
protective equipment as required. P301+310 - IF SWALLOWED - Immediately call a POISON CENTER or
doctor/physician. P331 - Do NOT induce vomiting.
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http://www.hornady.com/assets/files/msds/OneShot_Case_Lube_MSDS.pdf


David
 
Chemist here. Not sure what else is in it but the hexane is not overly dangerous. Think gasoline. It is very flammable. If you bath in it and drink it then yes it could kill you, maybe. But if you do that no warning label can help you. Long term exposure causes nerve damage so use in ventilated area.

Again, not sure what else may be in it but compared to many other things you encounter in life hexane is the least of my concern. Lawyer speak and California labeling. IMHO.

Disclaimer: poster is NOT responsible for any death, burns, limb loss, breast growth or personal harm to anyone who reads above statement.
 
I also use to lube my knives with whatever grease & oil I had lying around and the results were fine. But recently I bought some if the CRK fluorinated grease to see what all the fuss was about...I'm a pretty skeptic person so I wasn't expecting much over what I have been using. This stuff is no joke! It made my sebenza buttery smooth. I can EASILY flick the knife open (I wasn't too impressed with its action before). It also made a noticeable difference on my other knives. To add to the OP, the type of lube/grease you use actually does matter! I'm convinced of that now.
 
maroast said:
I also use to lube my knives with whatever grease & oil I had lying around and the results were fine. But recently I bought some if the CRK fluorinated grease to see what all the fuss was about...I'm a pretty skeptic person so I wasn't expecting much over what I have been using. This stuff is no joke! It made my sebenza buttery smooth. I can EASILY flick the knife open (I wasn't too impressed with its action before). It also made a noticeable difference on my other knives. To add to the OP, the type of lube/grease you use actually does matter! I'm convinced of that now.
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I am a skeptic as well and I completely agree now. It does make a noticeable difference. Not just a little one either
 
I switched from oils and waxes to grease several years ago for my pivots, and never looked back. As long as you use it sparingly, there are no negative factors. I apply it with a toothpick, spread it around with a 'modified' Q-tip (cotton around the toothpick,) and wipe off the excess. I re-apply only 2-3 times a year.


Stitchawl
 
stitchawl said:
I switched from oils and waxes to grease several years ago for my pivots, and never looked back. As long as you use it sparingly, there are no negative factors. I apply it with a toothpick, spread it around with a 'modified' Q-tip (cotton around the toothpick,) and wipe off the excess. I re-apply only 2-3 times a year.


Stitchawl
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IMO there is atleast one negative to grease. dirt and dust that comes in contact with it sticks and stays.
 
I am a very strong advocate of using the correct lubrication product. I do not have much experience with what you have used, but I have used quite a few lubricants and I find that they are not created equal. For example, I think the usage of a fluoropolymer grease (or a similar product) on the pivot and area between washers will yield both smooth operation and prolonged operation that users never knew was possible with their knives. The grease I have most used here is DuPont's Finish Line Extreme Fluoro, as to date it is the best I have used.

I've never really understood the argument for using 'whatever oil is around'. Beyond just giving smoother operation, the right lubricant will dramatically reduce wear over time, ultimately saving money and frustration, and greatly reduce the buildup of gunk & extend service intervals, ultimately saving time (and in some cases, improve reliability). I suppose it is different strokes for different folks but I personally like having Benchmades that are smoother than a Sebenza. :)
 
ARundrpillow said:
IMO there is atleast one negative to grease. dirt and dust that comes in contact with it sticks and stays.
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Depends on the grease. Newer fluoros not only provide incredible lubrication, but they do not foul up in the fashion of something like RIG or lithium grease.


While this is more about galling and reducing actual wear, it shows some images of the usage of grease and fouling. These fluoros are also getting big with firearms because of how they reduce the fouling that has historically been associated with thicker weight lubricants, and a downside that has sometimes precluded their usage in higher wear applications.
http://www.sandsmachine.com/grease_t.htm
 
Regarding any chemical it is the exposure amounts and limits...usually within an eight hour period, etc.
We have testing done periodically for the chemicals we use in the paper making business, and boy oh boy do we use a lot of different chemicals. The tests, we wear varied apparatus during the testing, are during the usage period and weighted over an eight hour period to determine PPE...personal protection equipment...etc.

A teeny tiny bit on a swab, etc. is a different story. However when I use any chemical I usually use nitrile gloves, just in case...don't want the twig and berries any smaller thank you...and toss them afterwards.

I'm going to give some a try. I usually use Benchmade lube but always looking for improvements.
Thanks for the info
 
ARundrpillow said:
I usually lube my folders with whatever I happen to have laying around. Usually Rem oil or another gun oil. I always get very similar results. It works very well. Smooth action. A few days ago I cleaned my ZT 0561 and decided to try some Hornaday One Shot case lube that I use for reloading. It evaporates and leaves behind a dry lube. Not exactly sure about it any more than that. So I gave it a little shot into the bearings and on the detent surfaces and WOW. I have never felt it even close to this smooth and fast. Blade just falls right down now under its own weight with no help. What an amazing difference. It has been approx 3 days and it is still just as smooth. Boarding on too smooth and easy to open. I will continue to use it daily and see if I find and draw backs or negatives about using this lube and report back but as of now i'm loving it. No sticky liquid to attract dirt, no drips or runs and it stays where you put it. I have never used a knife specific lube and I am sure some are great but this stuff is cheap and one can would last years

Oh yeah and it also completely fixed my sticky lock bar
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Any updates? I was curious what affect Moli Dry Lube (spray) would have on it the plastic around the bearings.
 
I use Hornady OneShot spray lube on my reloading presses and some of my guns (mostly in the action of my Ruger .22 pistol which tends to get gunked up using heavier lubes). I have also used it on knife pivots to good effect. As long as it's used in a well ventilated area you will not have any issues. BTW OneShot is also an excellent decreaser and rust preventive.
 
Moly has no negative effect on nylon or most plastics. You need to check the solvents on the MSDS for the specific product against a plastic chemical resistance chart to be sure. Moly is packed into a nylon matrix in the case of nylatron, so by itself it will surely not degrade the most common plastic used.

I have thought about using colloidal graphite, but I never used it because I used to expose my knife to brine and dirty oil a lot.
 
maroast said:
I also use to lube my knives with whatever grease & oil I had lying around and the results were fine. But recently I bought some if the CRK fluorinated grease to see what all the fuss was about...I'm a pretty skeptic person so I wasn't expecting much over what I have been using. This stuff is no joke! It made my sebenza buttery smooth. I can EASILY flick the knife open (I wasn't too impressed with its action before). It also made a noticeable difference on my other knives. To add to the OP, the type of lube/grease you use actually does matter! I'm convinced of that now.
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That's so true,......just ask any woman ;)
 
Spameater12003 said:
Chemist here. Not sure what else is in it but the hexane is not overly dangerous. Think gasoline. It is very flammable. If you bath in it and drink it then yes it could kill you, maybe. But if you do that no warning label can help you. Long term exposure causes nerve damage so use in ventilated area.

Again, not sure what else may be in it but compared to many other things you encounter in life hexane is the least of my concern. Lawyer speak and California labeling. IMHO.

Disclaimer: poster is NOT responsible for any death, burns, limb loss, breast growth or personal harm to anyone who reads above statement.
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Shame none of the ladies has chimed in.
 
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