Blade Magazine - Tactical folders?

Sal Glesser

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I just received my issue of Blade Magazine's separate issue entitled "Folders Fantastic". All in all a very nice book.

There is an article in the issue about "Tactical Folders". While the afticle was interesting and provided much information, I believe that it was sorely lacking in some of the hisorical significance on "Tactical folders".

Since most of you visit the Spyderco forums because you have interest in the products and/or Spyderco history, and many of you are fairly new to the industry (less than 10 years), I thought to bring additonal fact to the Tactical folder story.

The author quotes me as defining "Tactical Folders"; "A tactical folder is one that was "purpose-designed" to be put immediately into use to effectively solve an unforseen and potentially dangerous situation". The situation is "Tactical" because of the potential danger, and the potential danger can be anything from a rope to an adversary".

What it did not mention is that was the design parameters of the first Clipit "Worker" model which went into production in 1981.

That first Clipit was IMHO the first Tactical folder. It opened one handed, had the original pocket clip and was "purpose-designed" for the above definition. The Mariner followed the following year with serrations that provided even more effective cutting power along with the clip and one hand open.

My good friend Bob Terzuola carried a Clipit Mariner in his pocket every day for 5 years before he created the "first Tactical Folder", one hand open with a pocket clip. If he is the Father of Tactical Folders, then Spyderco must be the grandfather.

Spencer Frazier, president of SOG carried a Clipit Harpy for about as long before he "created" his first tactical folder.

Al Mar asked permission to use the Spyderco clip on his tactical models in the late 80's (He always did show a lot of class).

Spyderco has been a Guild member since '79. In the mid to late 80's. Spyderco provided thousands of clips to custom makers so they could make tactical folders.

Lynn Thompson, president of Cold Steel likewise carried a Clipit Mariner for many years before he made tactical folders. An intersting point is that Lynn paid Spyderco a royalty on the integral clip even though he didn't have to, he thought it was the honorable thing to do because it was a Spyderco invention (though not patentable).

Ernie Emerson came on the scene 10 years later. We even licensed Ernie to use our hole opener for his custom knives (as Spyderco did for many custom makers).

Les deAsis, president of Benchmade was trying to emulate the Spyderco Clipit as early as '88 with his Monarch series (with clip and one hand open). Benchmade finally created their version of a Spyderco Clipit (under license) called the AFCK.

Tony, president of Microtech was inspired to make tactical knives because of the Spyderco Clipits.

By the time the term "Tactical Folders" was coined by Bob T, Spyderco already had 8 production tactical folders on the market. Spyderco was the first production company to make all black folders as well.

The Endura and Delica which came out in 1990 were certainly tactical folders. With several million out in the field, I would say that they also heavily influenced the tactical folder market. We made and sold more Tactical Enduras in one month than any custom maker will make in their lives.

Every wonder why all those clips looked the same until just recently?

We don't normally like to toot our own horn, but I believe that a true historical on Tactical folders would have to begin a decade before the author thought it did.

Sorry for the rant.

sal
 
Sal, don't apologize. The truth is the truth, and it should be out there. I just saw this same issue on the stands this afternoon. I deliberately did NOT buy it because of that article. As a matter of fact, I showed that article to the wife and the first words out of her mouth were "I thought Spyderco were the first to do all of that." (I love my wife
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I'm also glad that you mentioned that part about Lynn paying royalties to you. While I don't always agree with his marketing strategies, I do like his products as well as yours, and I get tired of seeing him run down all the time. (More that once I have seen you step in to a Lynn Thompson/Cold Steel flame fest to make a point of mentioning what an honorable man Lynn is) Thats why so many people love Spyderco, not just for the quality of the product, but that fact that you and all you surround yourself with are such good-all-around people! Keep up the good work, Sal and company, those of us that know the truth will certainly help to spread it!

Flinx

[This message has been edited by Flinx (edited 05-31-2001).]
 
Sal,

Thanks for clarifying this history! What I really appreciate about Spyderco's products (in addition to the quality and customer service) is their originality. In a sea of "me too" knives your knives stand out. -Alan
 
ya i remeber in a world of buck 11o and gerber FS11'a a little knife w/a option for 1 hand opening, and a belt clip - revolutionary for sure - i bought my first spydie in about '82 i think, lost it at the lake long ago - but ya speak the truth sal

sifu
 
That's Blade mag for you
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DOH!

[This message has been edited by Ferret (edited 05-31-2001).]
 
Sir Issac Newton once said "If I have seen farther, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants".

Darn! That's why Sal's Shoulders are scuffed up with alot of footprints.

 
Thanks, Sal. Especially for my first Spydie, my old Endura, purchased at Ft. McClellan around '93. Still have it, hopefully always will!

Karl
 
Thanks much for the "real" history, Sal. Since I'm a relative newbie in reading about, buying etc good knives, I've heard a few things that indicated what a leadership role you and your company had fulfilled. It is sad, and -- I think -- speaks to the ethics of some, that the official history is so lacking in seminal events.

I just got my 2nd new Spydie in today's mail. The Wegner. I really like it a lot! It is easy to see the tactical capabilities, as well as the hunting knife focus in its design. Please don't think of this as a complaint, but I have to admit that it fits my left hand perfectly, while it only feels real good in my right hand. Oh how I wish it too was ambidextrous. At any rate, I'm going to be going out to face the world with the Wegner in my right pocket and my Goddard Ltwt in my left many of the days in future. And, my little Walker Ltwt is back there in my right rear pocket. At this stage, believe the only alternating will occur in right front pocket. The dealer from whom I ordered the Wegner provided gratis a 6-knife Sackup. Guess he knew how many CRKTs are going to be inactivated, at least part of the time. Still do have to check out the CRKT S-2 which is also on the way. And, who knows, maybe the new Calypso Jr. or the used Native FRN will do some alternating with the Goddard. I can barely wait til they arrive!

Thank you for your personal and professional integrity, and thanks almost as much for making so many fine knives!

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Bugs
 
Forgot to say that I strongly suggest you send your original post here to Blade as a letter to the editor, along with the fact that a great many forumites have read it.

I also personally think you should post this in the general forum, or that somebody ought to start a thread with a link here. I'll try to do that if nobody else has.

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Bugs
 
Wow! 1981! Cool.

I just wish I had known about them then... At seven years old a Spyderco would have been SO COOL!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Safety Guy:
Thanks, Sal. Especially for my first Spydie, my old Endura, purchased at Ft. McClellan around '93. Still have it, hopefully always will!

Karl
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My first Spyderco was also an old style Endura, with an integral clip and serrated edge. Bought it around late '90/early '91 (can't remember exactly when) and took it to LFI on August '91, only to find out that Mas Ayoob was also carrying it back then...

My wife carries it now, along with other Spydies. It still locks up perfectly. Thanks, Sal, for such a great product.

Leo



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Hi Sal,
I agree with you 100% about Spyderco not being given credit in the article for being the first to make production tactical folders. Also the clip and blade hole were definitely also first produced by Spyderco.
Since I know you and Bob Terzuola are friends(and both originally NYers) I wanted to point something out. Bob is quoted as saying that his was the first "custom" tactical folder in a non-art knife to use "all titanium lock and handle", and the first "custom" maker to have parts laser cut. I don't think Bob would take credit for inventing the tactical folder in general, he's too much of a class guy to take credit for something he didn't do. He actually was the first to use the thumb disc for one hand opening.
I agree that Spyderco wasn't given the recognition it deserves in the development of the one hand opening tactical folder. Knowing the author from posting here at BF, I doubt if it was intentional, but would like to hear from him. If he was talking about knives made by custom makers only, it seems odd that he would use your definition of what a tactical folder is.
I think he was on the money saying that the tactical craze really took off with the CQC6 and the public's obsession with whatever the SEAL's are using.
Just my observations here and thank you for continuosly producing a quality product, and for being so approachable and friendly at shows.

Dave



 
I agree with everything Sal has said, as far as I'm concerned, it's the truth. <font color=red>Period.</font>

I would add to this, however...

I think where people get confused when it comes to the "Tactical Craze" and then write things that become innaccurate is, they tend to look at one Phase of the "Tactical Craze" and then base their statements on that one facet of the diamond.

There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that Sal Glesser/Spyderco started the ball rolling with innovations that were so radically different they were actually considered "ugly" by most snob Knife Collectors.

I think it was later on, when Spyderco established this solid base, that everyone else benefitted from it.

I think the next major Phase, in my opinion, was Ernie Emerson's Customs, then the Benchmade Production Emerson CQC-7 fueled that more.



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Typical media. I've long learned that no matter how hard I try, they never get it right. Misquotes and inaccurate or missing information seem to be a staple.

I understand the need for the rant Sal, but to me and a whole lot of others, you, your company, and your products speak for themselves. More so than any writer...

Joel
 
Hey flinx,
i live in springdale,too.
have you seen any store with the new blade mag? not the folders fantastic (flipped thru it and didnt like it),but the actual Blade mag.
i have been searching high and low and NO ONE has it, as of today.
can you help me out?
 
Hey, Maurice, no I haven't seen the actual Blade magazine around here lately. Hastings had the last issue (last month?) before it sold out, but they haven't gotten in their new shipment of magazines yet for some reason. Maybe the holiday or something. Barnes & Noble carried it at one time too, but they don't seem to carry it at all anymore. Not "PC" enough maybe. If you ever get to Fort Smith, there is a little newsstand (Hot Off The Press) on Towson ave. just south of where Zero st meets Towson. They carry pretty much everything. I check them out everytime I go down to visit my parents.


Flinx
 
BTW- i want to apologize for breaking in here in the conversation.my apologies.

as far as the article goes,i noticed that while skimming over it in the bookstore.seemed odd. i did notice that spyderco was in the mag several times (dont recall if it was all ads or what),just not in the article where they really belonged.
i read dex's response in general forum,and understand.but ya know...maybe just a mention next time?
this company has been THE driving force behind tac. folders.
 
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