Blade Material investigation for HARNDS Talisman

Blade Material investigation for HARNDS Talisman

  • D2

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • 14C28N

    Votes: 17 73.9%

  • K110

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Total voters
    23
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HARNDS2012

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Hello, every body,I am the person in charge of HARNDS.
It is my first time to be here,really nice to have the chance to meet you.

Our best-sold item Talisman have been sold for almost 5 year until now, we have been keeping listening to the feedback from our customers and then improve it all the time. Now I believe it is one of the best knives this of this kind.

Talisman is made with Japanese stainless steel AUS-8, as its comprehensive characters are good, and it is very stable.But we also sometimes get advice from some customers that suggests us changing the stainless steel,for example,changing to D2. Later we tried to use D2 and 14C28N of Sandvik,both of them are good,exspecilly the 14C28N of Sandvik,it is very excellent.Take Assassin for example, it is made with 14C28N, the customers are very satisfied with it. So I would like to make an investigation with you,so that it will help us to make an decision. If we want to change the stainless steel of Talisman, D2 ,14C28N or K110 of BOHLER,which one is better in your opinion?Due to the product cost reason, higher level of stainless steel is not suitable to be used in this kinfe.So we can only choose one from the three material, s/s D2 or 14C28N or K110?Pls kindly let us know,thank you so much for your kind support and cooperation in advance.

Knives with higher level s/s are under development now, like M390, we will keep you informed.Thanks!
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Hello and welcome to BladeForums.

I’m quite fond of 14c28n.

I have seen your knives for sale in a few online retailers. They seem to have good reviews.

I am also curious about your company history.
 
unwisefool said:
Aren't k110 and d2 basically the same? Also I've never heard of your company, why don't you give us a little background info.
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Yes，k110 and d2 are similar.
Our company supply kinds of knives to many manufacturers of other country (USA, Russia rtc.)on an OEM basis for years.We established our own brands HARNDS and TONIFE in 2012, in recent years,and we have been focusing on the development and production of our own brand products.
 
No offense, but seems shady to ask us the steel to be used at all if your company is that strong. You should be well aware of what steel does what. Seems like a way to advertise instead.
 
The Talisman is a well built knife at a fair price point, a smooth flipper with a nice flat grind. My vote goes to 14c28n.
 
Yo Mama said:
No offense, but seems shady to ask us the steel to be used at all if your company is that strong. You should be well aware of what steel does what. Seems like a way to advertise instead.
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He isn't asking which performs better. He's asking which steel we'd be more likely to purchase if used on the Talisman.

I'd say 14c28n would be a good choice.

I don't suppose H HARNDS2012 would be allowed to tell us which companies they OEM manufacture for? May give people a better clue at your quality level.
 
Yo Mama said:
No offense, but seems shady to ask us the steel to be used at all if your company is that strong. You should be well aware of what steel does what. Seems like a way to advertise instead.
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I understand your doubting,actually, I don't think my company is strong enough.
We make not only outdoor knives but also kitchen knives, and I like outdoor knives very much personally.Talisman was first on sale in 2016, it has been update four times, the shape of balde and handle,the texture of handle,other details etc,but we didn't change the steel.During past four years,we have sold more than twenty thousand talisman, it is popular with more and more people in world, that's why I come to bladeforums to initiate an investigation for its steel.
I think if I want to advertise for it,I should come here four years ago.
 
JupiterPaladin said:
He isn't asking which performs better. He's asking which steel we'd be more likely to purchase if used on the Talisman.

I'd say 14c28n would be a good choice.

I don't suppose H HARNDS2012 would be allowed to tell us which companies they OEM manufacture for? May give people a better clue at your quality level.
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Yes,you understand what i mean.thx
 
MolokaiRider said:
Hello and welcome to BladeForums.

I’m quite fond of 14c28n.

I have seen your knives for sale in a few online retailers. They seem to have good reviews.

I am also curious about your company history.
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Thanks!
Our company supply kinds of knives to many manufacturers of other country (USA, Russia rtc.)on an OEM basis for years.
 
Yo Mama said:
No offense, but seems shady to ask us the steel to be used at all if your company is that strong. You should be well aware of what steel does what. Seems like a way to advertise instead.
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How is that shady? A company asking an enthusiast board for what they would like to see? If Sal Glesser asked what steel we wanted to see next people would be hyped. I personally don't have any HARNDS knives but I've seen/heard about them.
 
14c28n is a nice steel and it would differentiate you from a lot of the other manufacturers that are primarily using d2 right now.
 
Both K110 and 14c28n are great steels. If you use real K110 you will differentiate your product apart from everybody else using Chinese D2. Give it a good heat treat and you will immediately be set to to near the front, if not at the front of the pack. 14c28n will be a bit more of a departure from the norm, but K110 does perform a little bit better. Either steel with a proper HT will be great.
 
I am a fan of both D2 and Sandvik 14C28N. Sandvik 14C28N is my favorite budget steel.

Please offer the knife with a quality heat treatment that is at least 58-60.

The downfall of many production knives is a poor heat treatment.
 
Definitely make sure you get a proper heat treat! A great steel that is only 53 HRC would be a huge disappointment.
 
I'm a fan of Harnds. So far I have the Assassin, the Wolverine, the Giant Silkworm and two Winds. All use 14C28N. It's nice having a budget company that avoids the ubiquitous 18Cr13MoV and uses a steel I'm familiar and comfortable with.
 
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