Blade steel on this S&M baby sunfish??

Ritt

Ritt

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Hi Folks. I recently got a bug for a baby sunfish. I'm particularly drawn to the bolsters ("coined", I believe they're called?) on this S&M,

http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHATT-MORGAN-0...&otn=2&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=9032942764015344364

and I believe they're a good bet in terms of overall quality, but I can't figure out what the blade steel is. The seller doesn't appear to know either. Given that it's not marked or noted as ATS-34, would it be safe to assume it's 420HC?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks...............Dale
 
Dale......

Short answer,yep.....
Longer answer, ATS 34 can be found on S&M's File and Wire ( with the exception of the first series were a couple of patterns were run in both ), a few SFO's that were run in low quantities ( marked ) and a number of knife club's also use ATS 34 on their models ( also marked )
And the bolsters hard to pass on a thing of beauty ...I agree........coined can be a termed used though S&M considers them a "Signature bolster"

And if you're really itching for ATS look for Series 2 number 5 in the File and Wire since they still can be found
 
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Mmmm, funny the main blade should have file and wire in a banner with ATS-34 under it. the knife is a model from the file and wire series, Series two, edition five. Do not know why this one has a different blade etch. could it be a special or have the wrong etching?

Russell

Thanks for clarifying up there Jim!!
 
You could probably contact Queen and they could tell you, if not Clarence Risner would almost certainly know (you can find his website if you just search is name).
 
Is it from the file and wire series? The one at auction has a keystone shield, while all the F&W series knives I've seen pictures of have a SXM shield. I haven't been able to find a picture of this particular knife anywhere but on the auction site. Not suggesting anything's off about it, just got my curiosity piqued.

Thank you for the info on Clarence Risner. I sent him a message with my question about this knife, and while I was there ordered a series 2 number 5 baby sunfish (seemed rude to ask a question and not buy anything).
 
Just heard from Mr. Risner. He says that it is a F&W knife, and is ATS-34.
Seems odd that it's not marked as such??
 
Clarence Risners site is where I found the info on the knife I mentioned, just seems odd that they would use the same bolsters as on the file and wire series sunfish which would usually stand out rather different from any other sunfish model.....just a thought.

Russell
 
Hmmm, the knife at auction has a long pull and a nail nick on the main blade, while the F&W baby sunfish on Mr. Risner's site only has a nail nick. Odd.
 
The link that Ritt provided most definitely shows that this knife is one of a hundred...so it's not a File&Wire....furthermore in 2005 the knife in question was produced in a series which included the fire red oak,crimson wormgrove and a dark wood version all 1 of 100 and yes the File & Wire version looks identical with the exception of the steel used the tradional SXM shield and File&Wire etch.

Unfortunately Clarence has not taken this into consideration ( I'm grateful for all he's done with S&M and purchased many from him) but jog his memory, he always has alot on his plate.
 
My File and Wire tested baby sunfish arrived Saturday. I'm very pleased with it. Fit and finish are very good, considering the price and that this is a production knife. Action on both blades is nice and smooth. The secondary blade is nice and sharp, main blade needs just a little work to make it dangerous. Grinds and finish on the blades are excellent, beautiful bolsters, and I love the depth of color on the bone. The knife is fairly flat, so I don't even notice it in my back pocket. It arrived the same day as my new ebony weaver jack. It was a good day.
 
Your going to really like it! I have had mine nearly a year, and it looks great, carries great and just flat cuts! I have a 420HC mahogany bone one I'm fond of too!
 
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