Blade-tech mouse 2 and pro hunter

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al lee

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Took delivery of s30v, g10 blade-tech mouse 2 and pro hunter yesterday. After a quick check, I found the pro hunter impressive, rugged and larger than expected and the mouse 2 fabulous and an edc add on (who can decide what NOT to carry?). If you like the Spyderco hole, you gotta love the v-hole; same function, slightly different (and more effective) shape. Also found a recurring disappointment: lackluster closings. Recurring generally, not blade-tech specific. The mouse 2 closing is a marginal ok; the pro hunter needs serious help: ya gotta take it all the way home. It doesn’t go anywhere without help. Whatever: these models fall just short of superb because ya gotta pay so much attention to making sure the blade gets to and is secure in the handle. Brings up the following issue: is there a standard adjustment I can attempt to tighten up closings. Also, am I expecting too much when I look for “robust, crisp closings” in all folders, not just costly customs? I expected the pro hunter’s double nested liners to give it a closing performance advantage over the mouse 2’s solid spacer across the spine of the handle. That’s not what happened. Maybe I missed something in the literature/spec’s, like “CAUTION: when closing these models, extra attention required to ensure blade gets to and is securely seated in handle”. When I upgrade my forum membership, think I’ll build my “handle” around “Closer” or “The Closer” or “Lackluster Closer” or “In Search of the Robust, Crisp Closer”. So, should I go after the onliner who sold me the knives or just go direct to blade-tech. The answer probably has to be blade-tech, but when the performance gap is so obvious, you ought to be able to go back to the onliner, at the onliner's expense. If you have a reference or url to help me learn more about what contributes to strong closers, please pass it along and thank you, in advance.
 
None of my varied (Spydie,Al Mar,Benchmade,Delta Z,WH,Lone Wolf, Seki Cut,Bladetech, et al) liner locks close with any degree of authority, especially when compared to lockback or slip joints. Can't speak to cutoms' performance. Seems to me it's a function of the mechanics of the different lock designs. YMMV :)
 
Elsewhere in the forums, I waxed (? boringly and extensively?) eloquent on my recent weak closer experiences. When I can stand at the knife store counter, I request, plead, etc., with the shopkeeper to let me try as many of the same model items I’m contemplating buying until I find the one I like best. I’ve found over time that I can work with getting a slow and sticky opener to smooth out, but end up sending weak closers back to the factory. What I get back is always (fingers crossed) stronger, more robust in closing. My most recent example, a s30v vs. a vg-10 pe native, is a case in point. Pretty much the same knife except for the steel (and country of manufacture), but the “strength and robustness” of the vg-10 model over the s30v model as a closer was decisive, by a large margin. Similar results between the dodo I purchased and the same knife after Spyderco “sharpened and reconditioned” and sent it back. I am obsessed and fixated on this, primarily because when I cram my knife in my pocket to free up my hands to re-establish physical control over a situation, I don’t want to worry about my knife coming open in my pocket during the scuffle. I’ve had a couple of embarrassing and painful (but not seriously damaging) pocket openings, perhaps saved from more serious consequences by the arrival and intervention of my back-ups. For me, strong closing is a critical edc selection criterion. I’ve started trying to learn more about what makes good closers. I consider myself a low profile introvert, but maybe the next time ken onion, stan fujisaka, or tom mayo end up at a local show I’ll try to overcome my natural reluctance and see if they’re willing to help, because I know they can. Love to hear and "feel" that strong, clean, closing "click"!
 
dullone

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Seems to me it's a function of the mechanics of the different lock designs.
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In trying to work this out, checked all my folders. Spyderco makes good closers. My dodo is by far the strongest closer I've ever had and it, of course, is my no bs edc, even if it is a bit of a pocketfull. Working on an alternative carry. My native is my next best closer. I "part time" edc it, I carry it at home all the time. Liner locks, frame locks are no so hot at robust closing. Looks like dullone's on track and I've ceased aggravating the dealer from whom I bought the Pro Hunter. Tks, all.
 
My Buck Strider Tarani is a weak closer. Granted, the knife is designed to be opened in 1001 ways, but it would be nice if the detent were just a "wee" bit stronger. I don't know if it is just my particular knife, or if it is common to the breed, but I won't carry mine because I know its just waiting to bite me some day. If I were a LEO and purchased it for duty use, I'd be pissed. As it is, it rides in a cubby in my truck.

On the other end of the spectrum is my Terzuola TTF3A. When you close that beauty, click, it's closed, absolutely, positively, no doubt about it. God, I love that knife.

- Rob M.
 
Have you tried contacting Blade Tech? I have a couple of pro hunters and they all close easily and securely.
 
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