BladeSports is in the news!!!

I read the journal on somewhat regular basis and I can assure you their overall macro stance on knives, the people who carry and use them is not positive so please don't get too excited by this one article, need I remind everyone about this one in the same WSJ not that long ago.

How New, Deadly Pocketknives Became a $1 Billion Business

Mark Fritz.
Wall Street Journal.
New York, N.Y.: Jul 25, 2006.

A DECADE AGO, Jim Ray brought together a champion martial artist, a former Navy Seal and a police-weapons specialist to draft designs for what he hoped would be the perfect pocketknife.

But the high-tech knives the team created were never meant to whittle sticks. Instead, the team produced knives whose blades could be flicked open with one finger faster than the widely outlawed switchblade -- but were still perfectly legal. "Nobody wanted to call it a weapon" at the start, says Mr. Ray, a former proprietor of a North Carolina tourist shop. But eventually, he adds, "that changed." And soon Mr. Ray and the company he formed, Masters of Defense Inc., were marketing the blades' utility when "shooting is just not appropriate."

Mr. Ray was a pioneer in a technological revolution that has transformed "tactical" knives -- originally used in military combat -- into a $1-billion-a-year consumer business, aimed at just about anyone in the market for a small knife. These 21st century pocketknives, with their curved, perforated or serrated blades and ergonomic grips, can inflict deadly damage, but they are also compact, easily concealed and virtually unregulated.

In March, a monthly FBI bulletin alerted law-enforcement agents nationwide to "the emerging threats" posed by the knives. Though there are no statistics on how many crimes have involved tactical-style knives, the FBI says knife-related crimes have edged up, to 15.5% in 2004 from 15% in 2000. In that time, violent crime in general dropped 4.1%.

The knives' popularity has been a boon to some retailers. Mike Janes, owner of Second Amendment Sports, a hunting, fishing and camping superstore in Bakersfield, Calif., says that knife sales have been climbing an average of 25% a year in the past decade and that 75% of the pocketknives he sells are tactical. "Are you tacti-cool? That's what we say down here," Mr. Janes says.

Dave Vanderhoff, who runs U.S. Martial Arts in Clifford, N.J., recently taught a knife-fighting class that included a judge, a banker, a nurse, a young woman with a belly ring and a French chef from Manhattan. And Spyderco Inc., for example, makes a tactical knife that, when folded, masquerades as a credit card.

But the marketing techniques for some of the new pocketknives aren't so mainstream. Cold Steel Inc. makes the 3/4-ounce "Urban Pal," which has a 1.5-inch blade. "The Urban Pal should be standard equipment for survival in today's urban jungle," its Web site says.

Lawyers for the tactical-knife industry have persuaded government officials that even minor manual movement -- no matter how enhanced by levers and springs -- separates the knives from switchblades, which require pressing a button on the handle to flip open the blade. "We have to resist the application of the 1950s switchblade laws to the new technology," says lawyer Daniel Lawson, a knife collector in Pittsburgh who represents the tactical-knife industry. Thirty-seven states now outlaw switchblades, partly because they developed a cult following among teenagers in the 1950s. But, says David Kowalski, a former knife magazine editor and a spokesman for the industry, tactical knifes have remained legal because "the laws across the U.S. are a mishmash because [legislators] really don't know anything about knives."

Modern tactical knives are rooted in the 1980s, when some martial artists in the U.S. became practitioners of a Filipino style of knife- fighting. An early innovator was Ernest R. Emerson, a martial artist and custom knife builder. In 1995, Oregon's Benchmade Knife Co. collaborated with Mr. Emerson to mass produce the Closed Quarters Combat 7 knife. It opened quickly, locked in place and could be closed with one hand.

Mr. Emerson, 51 years old, says he insisted on selling that knife for $159, believing the high price, performance and custom look would give it cachet. The knife was a hit, and competition got hot. Mr. Emerson formed his own company in 1997 and says annual sales rose to about $10 million last year from $800,000 at the start.

Worried that they might face regulatory scrutiny, makers of the new- style pocketknives formed the American Knife and Tool Institute. The trade group credits U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, with persuading U.S. Customs in 2001 to stop seizing shipments of one-hand- opening tactical knives that some investigators considered switchblades. A spokesman for Sen. Wyden, Andrew Blotky, says he can't confirm the senator's involvement.

Soon the upstarts who dominated the self-defense market were jolting the traditional knife industry. Buck Knife Co., a staple among sportsmen; W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery, famed for its collectible pen knives; and Leatherman Tool Group Inc., which makes pocket-sized tool kits, have all introduced tactical knives since 2003.

"It's a testosterone thing," says Buck's chairman, Charles "Chuck" Buck, 75 years old, who estimates the retail market for tactical knives at $1 billion.

Leatherman Tool Group jumped on the tactical-knife bandwagon in 2005, introducing a full line of tactical-type knives. The most prominent feature on its knives is the "Blade Launcher" mechanism, which lets the user flip a menacing-looking blade out of its handle with lightning speed. Yet it also has a bottle-cap opener, a nod to Leatherman's heritage.

Not all makers of tactical knives agree on how to market them. Buck, for example, boasts in marketing materials about the "stopping power" of its tactical knives and bills its "Bones" knife as "bad to the bone."

But Tom Arrowsmith, chief executive of W.R. Case, accuses competitors of "weaponizing" the pocketknife and says it's an approach his company won't take. He does concede, though, that customer demand has prompted his company, a 117-year-old maker of pretty penknives, to offer a line of one-hand-opening knives with tactical features.

The blades on most of the new pocketknives are less than four inches long, the maximum length that passengers were permitted to carry onto U.S. airlines before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. In 2004, the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks concluded that the hijackers in those attacks used short knives -- not box cutters -- to seize control of the planes. At the Pennsylvania crash site, 14 badly damaged knife parts were collected, and at least half have tactical- knife characteristics. But the FBI cautions that it can't be sure those parts are from knives that belonged to the hijackers.

Technology has made blade length almost irrelevant. The city of Atlanta prohibits people from carrying pocketknives in public with blades longer than two inches. Yet, in a widely publicized case, ex- Marine Thomas Autry used a two-inch blade in May to kill one mugger and wound another when he was confronted by five assailants armed with a shotgun and a .38-caliber pistol.

"Clearly we are seeing wounds you would expect from a bigger blade from what victims say was a small knife," says Andrew Ulrich, a Boston Medical Center emergency-room doctor.

Mr. Janes of Second Amendment Sports is one of several retailers who have added knife training to their businesses. He says "this large influx of people carrying 'tactical folders' didn't know how to use them."

Nicholas Nobella, 25, took a four-hour class at the Bakersfield shop. Several months later, he admitted to police that he stuck his tactical knife into stripper Edward Pedrosa, 24, during a melee that broke out when men attending a bachelor party raided a bawdy bash for the bride-to-be, says Kern County, Calif., Deputy District Attorney Matt Magner. Mr. Pedrosa died. Mr. Nobella's lawyer says his client was acting in self-defense.

Mr. Janes says Mr. Nobella isn't typical of the students at his knife classes.

Meanwhile, in the race for the next big thing, some companies are competing to make more durable ceramic and plastic knives that can pass through metal detectors. Plastic "assisted-opening" knives that flick open with a slight nudge of the blade can be purchased on eBay for $20.

Cold Steel sales director Rick Valdez describes the company's $15 "Night Shade" plastic knives as "letter openers." Nonetheless, the company's Web site has a film clip of men attacking slabs of meat and decapitating plywood people, and it notes that the knives can be "taped just about anywhere" on the body.

The article can be found in the Wall Street Journal.
 
One other thing cbwoods67, read the headline of the article it calls the competition a knife fight, it is not a knife fight but rather a knife or cutting competition. They didn't say that did they, note they said knife fight were only pride gets wounded inferring to the reader no one gets stabbed. I don't see that as a positive lead off, do you? Admittedly better than the article from 2006 but don't get the warm fuzzes thinking that the overall staff of the WSJ has changed their view or position on knives. Trust me when I tell they still view them as deadly weapons that need to be heavily regulated or out right banned.
 
The reader responses after the article tell you what WSJ readers think about the competition. Most of those were viewing it as an oddity at best. The WSJ will often run an article about some part of our society that they view as on the margins. For them it is a bit like the old 'freak shows' that brought in extra people at a county fair. Watch for them to sometime run a story on some other sideshow piece that they view as novel. You see it also in shows like 'Swamp People' and 'Turtleman' where they get people on who are not mainstream.
 
I read the journal on somewhat regular basis and I can assure you their overall macro stance on knives, the people who carry and use them is not positive so please don't get too excited by this one article, need I remind everyone about this one in the same WSJ not that long ago.

How New, Deadly Pocketknives Became a $1 Billion Business

Mark Fritz.
Wall Street Journal.
New York, N.Y.: Jul 25, 2006.

A DECADE AGO, Jim Ray brought together a champion martial artist, a former Navy Seal and a police-weapons specialist to draft designs for what he hoped would be the perfect pocketknife.

But the high-tech knives the team created were never meant to whittle sticks. Instead, the team produced knives whose blades could be flicked open with one finger faster than the widely outlawed switchblade -- but were still perfectly legal. "Nobody wanted to call it a weapon" at the start, says Mr. Ray, a former proprietor of a North Carolina tourist shop. But eventually, he adds, "that changed." And soon Mr. Ray and the company he formed, Masters of Defense Inc., were marketing the blades' utility when "shooting is just not appropriate."

Mr. Ray was a pioneer in a technological revolution that has transformed "tactical" knives -- originally used in military combat -- into a $1-billion-a-year consumer business, aimed at just about anyone in the market for a small knife. These 21st century pocketknives, with their curved, perforated or serrated blades and ergonomic grips, can inflict deadly damage, but they are also compact, easily concealed and virtually unregulated.

In March, a monthly FBI bulletin alerted law-enforcement agents nationwide to "the emerging threats" posed by the knives. Though there are no statistics on how many crimes have involved tactical-style knives, the FBI says knife-related crimes have edged up, to 15.5% in 2004 from 15% in 2000. In that time, violent crime in general dropped 4.1%.

The knives' popularity has been a boon to some retailers. Mike Janes, owner of Second Amendment Sports, a hunting, fishing and camping superstore in Bakersfield, Calif., says that knife sales have been climbing an average of 25% a year in the past decade and that 75% of the pocketknives he sells are tactical. "Are you tacti-cool? That's what we say down here," Mr. Janes says.

Dave Vanderhoff, who runs U.S. Martial Arts in Clifford, N.J., recently taught a knife-fighting class that included a judge, a banker, a nurse, a young woman with a belly ring and a French chef from Manhattan. And Spyderco Inc., for example, makes a tactical knife that, when folded, masquerades as a credit card.

But the marketing techniques for some of the new pocketknives aren't so mainstream. Cold Steel Inc. makes the 3/4-ounce "Urban Pal," which has a 1.5-inch blade. "The Urban Pal should be standard equipment for survival in today's urban jungle," its Web site says.

Lawyers for the tactical-knife industry have persuaded government officials that even minor manual movement -- no matter how enhanced by levers and springs -- separates the knives from switchblades, which require pressing a button on the handle to flip open the blade. "We have to resist the application of the 1950s switchblade laws to the new technology," says lawyer Daniel Lawson, a knife collector in Pittsburgh who represents the tactical-knife industry. Thirty-seven states now outlaw switchblades, partly because they developed a cult following among teenagers in the 1950s. But, says David Kowalski, a former knife magazine editor and a spokesman for the industry, tactical knifes have remained legal because "the laws across the U.S. are a mishmash because [legislators] really don't know anything about knives."

Modern tactical knives are rooted in the 1980s, when some martial artists in the U.S. became practitioners of a Filipino style of knife- fighting. An early innovator was Ernest R. Emerson, a martial artist and custom knife builder. In 1995, Oregon's Benchmade Knife Co. collaborated with Mr. Emerson to mass produce the Closed Quarters Combat 7 knife. It opened quickly, locked in place and could be closed with one hand.

Mr. Emerson, 51 years old, says he insisted on selling that knife for $159, believing the high price, performance and custom look would give it cachet. The knife was a hit, and competition got hot. Mr. Emerson formed his own company in 1997 and says annual sales rose to about $10 million last year from $800,000 at the start.

Worried that they might face regulatory scrutiny, makers of the new- style pocketknives formed the American Knife and Tool Institute. The trade group credits U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, with persuading U.S. Customs in 2001 to stop seizing shipments of one-hand- opening tactical knives that some investigators considered switchblades. A spokesman for Sen. Wyden, Andrew Blotky, says he can't confirm the senator's involvement.

Soon the upstarts who dominated the self-defense market were jolting the traditional knife industry. Buck Knife Co., a staple among sportsmen; W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery, famed for its collectible pen knives; and Leatherman Tool Group Inc., which makes pocket-sized tool kits, have all introduced tactical knives since 2003.

"It's a testosterone thing," says Buck's chairman, Charles "Chuck" Buck, 75 years old, who estimates the retail market for tactical knives at $1 billion.

Leatherman Tool Group jumped on the tactical-knife bandwagon in 2005, introducing a full line of tactical-type knives. The most prominent feature on its knives is the "Blade Launcher" mechanism, which lets the user flip a menacing-looking blade out of its handle with lightning speed. Yet it also has a bottle-cap opener, a nod to Leatherman's heritage.

Not all makers of tactical knives agree on how to market them. Buck, for example, boasts in marketing materials about the "stopping power" of its tactical knives and bills its "Bones" knife as "bad to the bone."

But Tom Arrowsmith, chief executive of W.R. Case, accuses competitors of "weaponizing" the pocketknife and says it's an approach his company won't take. He does concede, though, that customer demand has prompted his company, a 117-year-old maker of pretty penknives, to offer a line of one-hand-opening knives with tactical features.

The blades on most of the new pocketknives are less than four inches long, the maximum length that passengers were permitted to carry onto U.S. airlines before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. In 2004, the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks concluded that the hijackers in those attacks used short knives -- not box cutters -- to seize control of the planes. At the Pennsylvania crash site, 14 badly damaged knife parts were collected, and at least half have tactical- knife characteristics. But the FBI cautions that it can't be sure those parts are from knives that belonged to the hijackers.

Technology has made blade length almost irrelevant. The city of Atlanta prohibits people from carrying pocketknives in public with blades longer than two inches. Yet, in a widely publicized case, ex- Marine Thomas Autry used a two-inch blade in May to kill one mugger and wound another when he was confronted by five assailants armed with a shotgun and a .38-caliber pistol.

"Clearly we are seeing wounds you would expect from a bigger blade from what victims say was a small knife," says Andrew Ulrich, a Boston Medical Center emergency-room doctor.

Mr. Janes of Second Amendment Sports is one of several retailers who have added knife training to their businesses. He says "this large influx of people carrying 'tactical folders' didn't know how to use them."

Nicholas Nobella, 25, took a four-hour class at the Bakersfield shop. Several months later, he admitted to police that he stuck his tactical knife into stripper Edward Pedrosa, 24, during a melee that broke out when men attending a bachelor party raided a bawdy bash for the bride-to-be, says Kern County, Calif., Deputy District Attorney Matt Magner. Mr. Pedrosa died. Mr. Nobella's lawyer says his client was acting in self-defense.

Mr. Janes says Mr. Nobella isn't typical of the students at his knife classes.

Meanwhile, in the race for the next big thing, some companies are competing to make more durable ceramic and plastic knives that can pass through metal detectors. Plastic "assisted-opening" knives that flick open with a slight nudge of the blade can be purchased on eBay for $20.

Cold Steel sales director Rick Valdez describes the company's $15 "Night Shade" plastic knives as "letter openers." Nonetheless, the company's Web site has a film clip of men attacking slabs of meat and decapitating plywood people, and it notes that the knives can be "taped just about anywhere" on the body.

The article can be found in the Wall Street Journal.


That article makes me sick. It really shows how little most people know about knives. They fail to mention how many murders are committed with kitchen/steak knives. I guess those are "tactical" as well because you dont even have to waste precious time opening them. I also can't believe anyone that's in business selling knives/teaching knife classes would talk to a liberal paper such as the WSJ.
 
The reader responses after the article tell you what WSJ readers think about the competition. Most of those were viewing it as an oddity at best. The WSJ will often run an article about some part of our society that they view as on the margins. For them it is a bit like the old 'freak shows' that brought in extra people at a county fair. Watch for them to sometime run a story on some other sideshow piece that they view as novel. You see it also in shows like 'Swamp People' and 'Turtleman' where they get people on who are not mainstream.

i like those shows about the different people like swamp people, gives me faith in society again to know that there are still hard working people out there and it hasnt been out sourced, taken over by machine or just given to illegal immigrants because they work cheaper.
 
When you talk about the Wall Street Journal, I think it's good to consider who's pulling the strings. Despite what you might think about the political positions offered. Wrap your head around this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall_Street_Journal

"On May 2, 2007, News Corp. made an unsolicited takeover bid for Dow Jones, offering US$60 a share for stock that had been selling for US$33 a share. The Bancroft family, which controlled more than 60% of the voting stock, at first rejected the offer, but later reconsidered its position.[21]

Three months later, on August 1, 2007, News Corp. and Dow Jones entered into a definitive merger agreement.[22] The US$5 billion sale added The Wall Street Journal to Rupert Murdoch's news empire, which already included Fox News Channel, financial network unit and London's The Times, and locally within New York, the New York Post, along with Fox flagship station WNYW (Channel 5) and MyNetworkTV flagship WWOR (Channel 9).[23]

On December 13, 2007, shareholders representing more than 60 percent of Dow Jones's voting stock approved the company's acquisition by News Corp.[24]

In an editorial page column, publisher L. Gordon Crovitz said the Bancrofts and News Corp. had agreed that the Journal's news and opinion sections would preserve their editorial independence from their new corporate parent:[25]

A special committee was established to oversee the Journal's editorial integrity. When the managing editor Marcus Brauchli resigned on April 22, 2008, the committee said that News Corporation had violated its agreement by not notifying the committee earlier. However, Brauchli said he believed that new owners should appoint their own editor.[26]

A 2007 Journal article quoted charges that Murdoch had made and broken similar promises in the past. One large shareholder commented that Murdoch has long "expressed his personal, political and business biases through his newspapers and television stations." Former Times assistant editor Fred Emery remembers an incident when "Mr. Murdoch called him into his office in March 1982 and said he was considering firing Times editor Harold Evans. Mr. Emery says he reminded Mr. Murdoch of his promise that editors couldn't be fired without the independent directors' approval. 'God, you don't take all that seriously, do you?' Mr. Murdoch answered, according to Mr. Emery." Murdoch eventually forced out Evans.[27] Coincidentally, 2007 was also the last year that the Wall Street Journal won any Pulitzer prizes."
 
Thanks, Unit.

I've never seen anything like this level of skill with a knife, the ability to cut with both finesse and strength with the same knife. In addition to the wielders' skill, those must be some blades....

The "nimble" Donovan had the best hat. :)

~ P.
 
i like those shows about the different people like swamp people, gives me faith in society again to know that there are still hard working people out there and it hasnt been out sourced, taken over by machine or just given to illegal immigrants because they work cheaper.
Yeah, I enjoy unique people who aren't afraid to do a hobby or occupation that is not a regular thing. So much of our country has followed the franchise route, every thing the same no matter where you go.
 
The reader responses after the article tell you what WSJ readers think about the competition.

The most pathetic one so far is the Fruit Ninja comment. That guy should maybe learn about tameshigiri, or that physical exertion outside of swiping your finger across an iPad screen still exists.
 
That article makes me sick. It really shows how little most people know about knives. They fail to mention how many murders are committed with kitchen/steak knives. I guess those are "tactical" as well because you dont even have to waste precious time opening them. I also can't believe anyone that's in business selling knives/teaching knife classes would talk to a liberal paper such as the WSJ.

They tend to slant the articles to serve their own purposes or agendas like most of the media.

What most people know about knives comes from TV and Movies or some ad they see of an idiot trying to look all tactical, none of those things do us any good.

Knives are portrayed as weapons so it's no surprise that normal people see them as such.
 
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This made me laugh. It's funny 'cause it's true.

"Nonetheless, the company's Web site has a film clip of men attacking slabs of meat and decapitating plywood people, and it notes that the knives can be "taped just about anywhere" on the body."
 
Thanks, Unit.

I've never seen anything like this level of skill with a knife, the ability to cut with both finesse and strength with the same knife. In addition to the wielders' skill, those must be some blades....

The "nimble" Donovan had the best hat. :)

~ P.

Thanks!

The knives we use are pretty amazing, but I will suggest that the knife is simply a tool and the user makes ALL the difference. The talent you see in those videos is exactly that...the knives being used are all VERY VERY similar. In fact, it is quite often that the winner of a competition is using the exact same knife as several others.

The knives I currently use are exactly the same as what Gary Bond uses and he has risen to the top of the sport with it...my results are somewhat less significant;)

Donavon is a personal friend of mine and a training partner of sorts. I have used his knives also. While his knives are amazing custom creations that he has won back to back National Championships with (2011 and 2012)...again, my performances were somewhat less notable with his knives.

My point is, we all have fun, all the competitors are amazing in their own right, but it ain't the knife that makes the winner.

To the others: I would never suggest that WSJ is a group of knife fans. I think the article is amazing all things considered. Could it be better? Perhaps, but at least it does not entirely pander to alarmism and negative images. I do not expect one article to transform the masses...but I dang sure am not going to wallow in the fact that many are anti-knife, Instead I choose to celebrate the fact that my sport of choice is fairly illustrated in a good article in a major publication.
 
As I said in the other thread, I read this article as still having a bit of east coast pseudo-intellectual arrogance. Maybe I am being a bit nitpicky, but am I the only one who picked on a bit of a"once you get rid of the cammo pants and knock the point off of the blade, the morbidly obese redneck hacking away with the 10 inch blade is not quite so scary." vibe?
 
As I said in the other thread, I read this article as still having a bit of east coast pseudo-intellectual arrogance. Maybe I am being a bit nitpicky, but am I the only one who picked on a bit of a"once you get rid of the cammo pants and knock the point off of the blade, the morbidly obese redneck hacking away with the 10 inch blade is not quite so scary." vibe?

No...I did not get that vibe at all.
 
Thanks!

The knives we use are pretty amazing, but I will suggest that the knife is simply a tool and the user makes ALL the difference.

Thanks for the further explanations. I would have guessed that-- the primacy of the user's skill- which is why I placed "wielders' skill" first. It seems I still would have given undue credit to the knives, however. I enjoy hearing you talk about the knives and their users, and what's involved in achieving such results.

Maybe I should have instead said, "In addition to the wielders' skill, those blades are indubitably way sharper than mine." ;)

~ P.
 
Thanks for the further explanations. I would have guessed that-- the primacy of the user's skill- which is why I placed "wielders' skill" first. It seems I still would have given undue credit to the knives, however. I enjoy hearing you talk about the knives and their users, and what's involved in achieving such results.

Maybe I should have instead said, "In addition to the wielders' skill, those blades are indubitably way sharper than mine." ;)

~ P.

Thanks.

The knives are amazing. The poorest edge I have seen at a comp would shave arm hair quite well. The best edges would still do it after the competition was over (many will).

I'm not sure how many people get into this sort of thing. It is like an addiction for some;)

There are NUMEROUS videos on YouTube for anyone interested.
 
As I said in the other thread, I read this article as still having a bit of east coast pseudo-intellectual arrogance. Maybe I am being a bit nitpicky, but am I the only one who picked on a bit of a"once you get rid of the cammo pants and knock the point off of the blade, the morbidly obese redneck hacking away with the 10 inch blade is not quite so scary." vibe?

No your not the only one that is why I went and dug the old tactical
Knife hit piece and posted it, trust me the WSJ was not there to help out and put a positive spin on knife/knives are anything related there to. It was a tongue in cheek Piece at best. To remotely think otherwise is utter foolishness and shows a complete lack of understanding of northeast elitist culture and mentality.
 
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