Blatant lie on the bay? Couldn't be!

arskrg

arskrg

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The only part of this I'd guess to be true is that Chris Reeve would be aghast at the knife.

"In the mid-to-late 1990s, Chris Reeve was approached by Columbia River Knife and Tool to produce a lower-cost, mass produced version of his famous large Sebenza. CRKT would have the knives produced in Taiwan with AUS-6, partially serrated blades and zytel handles. When the first production run was done, Mr. Reeve was absolutely aghast at the knives and refused to allow them to be sold. As such, the entire production run was destroyed.

HOWEVER, a few hundred of the original knives exist, mostly prototypes and salesman samples that left the factory well before the first production was finished and Mr. Reeve was able to examine them. This makes the CRKT Sebenza one of the rarest Sebenza models in existence and they come up for sale less often then just about any other model known. CRKT Sebenza, model 6513. This knife is not a forgery or a counterfeit, but a legitimate, Chris Reeve designed Sebenza, albeit one that never went to market."
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arskrg said:
The only part of this I'd guess to be true is that Chris Reeve would be aghast at the knife.

"In the mid-to-late 1990s, Chris Reeve was approached by Columbia River Knife and Tool to produce a lower-cost, mass produced version of his famous large Sebenza. CRKT would have the knives produced in Taiwan with AUS-6, partially serrated blades and zytel handles. When the first production run was done, Mr. Reeve was absolutely aghast at the knives and refused to allow them to be sold. As such, the entire production run was destroyed.

HOWEVER, a few hundred of the original knives exist, mostly prototypes and salesman samples that left the factory well before the first production was finished and Mr. Reeve was able to examine them. This makes the CRKT Sebenza one of the rarest Sebenza models in existence and they come up for sale less often then just about any other model known. CRKT Sebenza, model 6513. This knife is not a forgery or a counterfeit, but a legitimate, Chris Reeve designed Sebenza, albeit one that never went to market."
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IIRC, that's true, or close to true.
 
wow, I Justlooked this thing up, and I must say,. if it is true, I would like to have one to be different, but only for collecting. I think there is a good reason, it stayed a prototype. I have to wonder though, is the zytel even strong Enough for the lock?

anyways, anyone on here have one?

it would be interesting from a collector/ educational standpoint to see how drastic the difference is

it would also help illustrate the difference in high and low end knives as they are both the "same" mode (in a sense)
 
crazyengineer said:
wow, I Justlooked this thing up, and I must say,. if it is true, I would like to have one to be different, but only for collecting. I think there is a good reason, it stayed a prototype. I have to wonder though, is the zytel even strong Enough for the lock?

anyways, anyone on here have one?

it would be interesting from a collector/ educational standpoint to see how drastic the difference is

it would also help illustrate the difference in high and low end knives as they are both the "same" mode (in a sense)
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It feels like a gas station special with a TINY bit more quality and the ergos of a sebenza but the feel of cheap arse plastics.
 
Hello.

I have one and it is a real shit.
Just as an object of collection value.

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Greetings
 
Llasi said:
Hello.

I have one and it is a real #€¥*.
Just as an object of collection value.

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Keep that word to the 'other' forums!

Although I must say, your message: "Hello.
I have one and it is a real #£¥%.
Just as an object of collection value.


Greetings"
Is awesome...
 
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Well, I guess I stand corrected. I learned something new today, now I can go home!
I assumed that they were saying that he'd agreed to the collaboration, then didn't like the prototype.
Seems more likely that they made the prototype without permission and he told them to hit the road when he saw it?
 
At least HALO V is right, that kind of casual language will cascade, and we don't need that, that's why it's against the rules. But he didn't threaten anyone with action, just informed him.
 
arskrg said:
Well, I guess I stand corrected. I learned something new today, now I can go home!
I assumed that they were saying that he'd agreed to the collaboration, then didn't like the prototype.
Seems more likely that they made the prototype without permission and he told them to hit the road when he saw it?
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No, the deal really is he'd agreed to the collaboration, then didn't like the prototype. CRKT messsed up in letting any out before he evaluated the run.
 
I can see the collector value but man the is a horrible looking knife I understand him not wanting his name anywhere near it.
 
Why the shock? So some of the knife gods and godlings agree to or consider "economy versions" as part of their business plan. Not all turn out well. Has happened many times.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Why the shock? So some of the knife gods and godlings agree to or consider "economy versions" as part of their business plan. Not all turn out well. Has happened many times.
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Sure has. Some of the great user knives come out of collaborations -- Kershaw and Ken Onion, Spyderco's Byrd line, Benchmade's Red Class. Dumbing it down doesn't always mean making it useless. Evidently, CRKT just didn't have a good enough factory to work with in those days.
 
Nope, this is the real thing. Long ago when I first got into CRK and was looking at their folders. Well before my Bladeforums.com years.....lol, I seen one on ebay and thought it was counterfeit. So I reported it to ebay and then to CRK. I later found out that it was indeed a CRK design that never went to market and some leaked out that were samples. Though I dont remember them saying there were 100's that leaked out, I believe the number was less than that. I have since changed computers several times and dont have the original email anymore unfortunately.
 
This is all true.
CRKT let the production of some slip before Chris was able to see the prototype and disapprove.
As soon as Chris saw it he disapproved and was very disappointed. He would not have his name on or near anything of such quality.
So a couple hundred made it out on the market. It's extremely rare and hard to get a hold of.

If CRKT would have used a steel frame lock, offered plain edge, and possibly made it in AUS-8 it may have done better.
 
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