Blood Clotting Bandaids

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Sorry, I know there's a specific name for these, but I totally forgot it. Anyways, a friend just got cut, and it occurred to me that I heard of something, and saw it at REI, quick clot or something? I remember there were negative reviews of it, due to the possibility of heat being generated, and researched some bandages, but I realized there is quite a lot. Celox seems pretty good, but there's a host of others that I'm not familiar with. Anyone ever used these, and suggest a certain brand/type? Also, if I do use them, what happens afterwards? Would it be okay to use them on a cut, or a I'm-about-to-die-cut?
 
perhaps you mean quikclot, the brand that specializes in hemostatic agents? they are the leaders and they produce the gauze that is impregnated with their substance. The controversy arose because it was originally a powder and in theory a granual or two could travel in the blood stream and into your heart, causing major complications. heat is a by-product of the fast action however the more refined they make their product the less heat is generated i blieve the current stuff rates in at about 120 unpleasant but by no means scalding.

I carry the stuff with me but its a life or death type thing. theres no research on long term effects that i know of. From another standpoint though the stuff is amazing, i have seen videos of a pigs leg being bi-sected and the let the thing just squirt blood for ten second and dump the packet in and BAM!!!! bleeding just stops a few seconds later its a solid and they are ready for surgery. combat guaze may be restricted fotr civilians and hard to come by but im sure youll find a way, the stuff expires so make sure when you get it that its got a year or two left on the expiration date.

also to my knowledge there are no quik-clit bandaids, bandaids is a brand name by johnson & johnson. The generic term is adhesive medical strips. I believe there is no reason to put the stuff on the kind of wound that is treated with a band-aid kind of like using a bowie knife for a task that a small slip joint can handle with ease like opening your mail.

good luck with your product hunting
 
as you can see on their website they make two class of products: http://www.quikclot.com/?gclid=COPtqpP02K0CFUHc4Aoden7XmQ

if i were you i would look for band-aids/ adhesive medical strips with hemostatic (that instantaneousbloodclotting) agents impregnated in them.

My other word of advice is get some training, i am a fan of the stuff because its saved the lives of some friends but its not magic and its not a toy.
 
I have taken to a keeping stipic pencil (available in the shaving aisle at your drug store) in my "ouch kits" (I use the term "ouch kit" to refer to a "first aid" kit that is really intended only to help with life's every-day minor cuts and scrapes) and those work very well for minor cuts. A stipic pencil is what boxing trainers use to quickly stop bleeding from minor cuts. The other one I have used successfully is Afrin nasal spray. The same chemical that stops nasal drip is a vasoconstrictor, i.e. causes blood vessels to constrict. This does not work if the bleeding is stong as the blood flow will wash the liquid out before it can get to the broken vessel.
 
Alright, thanks for the help. I've noticed that Quikclot isn't cheap, around $15 for a pad, while Celox seems to be a lot cheaper, although it comes in powder form. Are the two equally effective/safe? Because I'm leaning towards Celox because of price.

EDIT: I've been doing more research, and it seems that Quikclot requires you to go to the hospital to get a detox? And flush out the Quickclot? While celox seems to be okay.
 
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Celox frickin' BURNS. QuikClot doesn't burn as bad.
They are meant to only be used in a life or death situation (gunshot, arterial bleeding, etc.) to stop bloodflow. Not for just nicking yourself. In other words, it's to buy you more time to get to the hospital.
If you want both capabilities, styptic pencils are good for minor to moderate cuts and scrapes, and Celox/QuikClot for major stuff. You might as well throw a bandanna in there too, good for everything and more.
 
Okay, after doing some other personal research, I see that QuikClot used to have problems- the heat, powder blowing everywhere, difficult to remove, and the possibility of a stroke caused by clotting. Does this still happen in the newer versions? Such as the 25g or 50g sport packs? And is there anything else I should know about before buying/using it?
 
As everyone has stated if you are using it you probably dont care if its safe because you are bleeding out, a stroke is the last thing on your mind. you need to take a class if you plan on carrying stuff like that. the sports pack should be fine hell you can get them at wal-mart, but they are sponges versus impregnated cause that you can put in the wound at the very least you need a crevat or a dressing in order to keep constant pressure. but do yourself a favor and get some training. If your gonna carry quik-clot you might as well get a sof-t and some crevats and israeli dressings and tension pneumothorx needles, and kirlex as well. Just get your first reponder training and get confidence with what you have. The stuff isnt a cure all for greivious wounds, if the guy has a lung collapseing the quik-clot isnt going to help him he needs the pressure to be released with a tension needle. These are things you have to consider. Also if you help someone else and you have no training and botch it terribly you could go to jail.

if this is for just minor nicks and scrapes do as gollnick suggests and get a styptic pen, i shave with a straight razor i can tell you factually that they work, and you can apply a regular band-aid over it. people dont relly need to be messing with this stuff if their primary source of information is the freaking internet, its comparable to someone getting a .50 cal and thinking they are instantly able to snipe someone 1000 meters away. Get the training and get the confidence, or leave the quik-clot at home.
 
Chemical cuterization for for potentially life threatening bleeds. Stiptic are cool and I like them, they are for small wounds.

Also so some reading on the use of pressure bandages. Much less risk if it is a heavy but not life threatening bleed.

"Isreali" bandages are good. Heck, I have seen a feminine pad and roll of electrical tape used to great effect. I carry the same in my car kit and in my chainsaw chaps.

Bill
 
The time you use these kinds of things is the time that if nothing happens you WILL die in minutes. It's worth the risk of stroke.
 
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