Blood Sweat and propane ...Or a Forging question

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Ahhh the sweet sound of sweat drops hitting red hot steel as you forge in 95degs
Well that was yesterday, three blisters later Questions
Would wrapping the hammer with tennis grip tape help?
How do I keep from making Bananna shaped blades?
What is the best hand tool for stretching Damascus?
Any other tips to make this journey easier will be helpfull!
 
Would wrapping the hammer with tennis grip tape help?

Maybe, but you are probably holding it too tight.

How do I keep from making Bananna shaped blades?

Either straighten with each heat, or precurve the blade.

What is the best hand tool for stretching Damascus?

Huh? Cross-pein hammer? What do you mean exactly by "stretching"?

Any other tips to make this journey easier will be helpfull!

Read as many books and see as many videos as you can. Realize that no one is borne doing this, and we all had to learn. Easy does it. Concentrate on perfecting one skill before you go for another. Some smiths hammer for years and never make damascus until they've made many many blades. :)
 
Would wrapping the hammer with tennis grip tape help?

I wouldn't wrap the hammer, it's possible the handle is too fat and round and has too smooth a finish. Most hammers come with handles that are both too long and too large around. Try shaping the handle so that the sides are a bit flatter so that the handle has a more of a rectangular cross section than oval. Of course keep your hands as dry as possible. I do think blisters are somewhat inevitable though, especially if you don't get to forge often enough to develop callouses.

How do I keep from making Bananna shaped blades?

Like Jeff said, straighten as you go, it is also perfectly o.k. to lightly hammer on the on the edge itself to take the curve out of the blade. Remember if you decide to pre-curve the stock, curve it down toward the edge-to-be so that the blade straightens out as you forge the bevels in.

What is the best hand tool for stretching Damascus?

I think you mean for drawing out a damascus billet. What works really well for a friend of mine is a hammer that he modified so that the main stiking face is essentially a straight peen with a very wide rounded striking surface. This channels the force of the hammer blow lengthwise. I plan to modify an engineers hammer soon for the same thing. You can also make a bottom fuller that fits in your hardy hole either in conjunction with the drawing hammer or a regular hammer. Jeff has also give good advice to not rushing things, just concentrate on forging nice profiles and bevels on mono-steel, especially concentrate on forging the tip without either clipping the steel on an angle first and without forming the dreaded fishmouth. Forging is the perfect opportunity to get a great distal taper going as well. That said, it's hard not to try pattern welding when the opportunity presents itself.

Any other tips to make this journey easier will be helpfull.

Lets see, make sure you have a neutral or reducing atmosphere in your forge and if you haven't already, try the Japanese trick of wet forging. It's oh so satisfying to hear the POP as scale comes off your work! Just keep a bucket with a few inches of water near your anvil to dip your hammer in. A frayed section of heavy manilla or sisal rope makes a great mop, just dip it in the water and swipe the face of the anvil while your blade re-heats. Oh, very important! Don't neglect forearm and wrist stretching excersises before you forge! I couldn't forge for a few months at one time because I neglected to do this and it didn't get better until I started doing the stretching excersises religiously. Try and get into the habit of wearing eye protection while forging

One last tip, try really hard not to drop nearly white hot billets of damascus into your slack bucket! :D
 
"Oh, very important! Don't neglect forearm and wrist stretching excersises before you forge! I couldn't forge for a few months at one time because I neglected to do this and it didn't get better until I started doing the stretching excersises religiously."

Absolutely the best advice, Guy! I had a 6-month layoff of forging, and now I'm back in the swing. I started taking Condroitin and Glucosamine and physical therapy. Now I stretch before each forging session, and I can still write my name afterwards, which I could not do before! :)
 
Thanks for the help guys. Yes i did mean stretching the damascus.
I have a straight peen 3lb so I used it sideways.
You are right Arm is tight today across the top of the forearm Stretches will become part of my routine from here out. Need to get my rear to a HammerIn
 
If you decide to be a dumbass and try to swing a 6lb hammer the same velocity as you normally swing a 1500g hammer. You will hurt your shoulder. Takes more time to make a larger mass get from point A to point B.

Buy a power hammer.

Clothes are disposable.

Make sure your anvil height is correct for you.

UV radiation will screw up your eyes. Wear filtered lenses.

Rubber mats save your back, but boys do they stink when on fire.

Go for it. Forge in Austenite and quench in cold water :}

Edited to add. Never normalize. Its just a waste of time and fuel.
 
Blinker, Dan Grey has about three turotials on knife forging on his website. I used them initially to get some problems ironed out, and still refer to his site, a vast wealth of info there (thanks Dan). Don't have the site in frount of me, but will find it for you. (and yes, buy a power hammer) :)




Mark Williams said:
If you decide to be a dumbass and try to swing a 6lb hammer the same velocity as you normally swing a 1500g hammer. You will hurt your shoulder. Takes more time to make a larger mass get from point A to point B.

Buy a power hammer.

Clothes are disposable.

Make sure your anvil height is correct for you.

UV radiation will screw up your eyes. Wear filtered lenses.

Rubber mats save your back, but boys do they stink when on fire.

Go for it. Forge in Austenite and quench in cold water :}

Edited to add. Never normalize. Its just a waste of time and fuel.
 
I've been forging alot lately in the heat :confused:
I have a fan blowing on me and I use a power hammer :D

The best money I ever spent was on my two Little Giants.

Don Hanson
 
I carved the handle of my hammer so it more or less fits my hand- not real deeply carved, just some indents for my fingers. Now it feels real comfortable. Also, a trick I learned in my roofing career is, hold the hammer gently and let its weight do as much of the work as possible. Relax your hand and arm while still keeping control of the hammer. Only use enough muscle to push the hammer down toward the exact point you want it to hit, and almost totally relax your hand and arm just before the hammer hits, thus avoiding the shocking impact going up your arm. And after a hammering session, soak your hands and forearms in very warm water, to keep things loose and help avoid repetitive stress injuries.
 
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David you may want to find newer threads this one is 7 years old and if he is still getting blisters he is not forging enough. I noticed you on another forum dragging up really old stuff.

Welcome to Blade Forums.
 
Wow...I saw a post from Higgy and got all excited. Then I noticed the almost 7 year old necropost....

-d
 
Dont hold a death grip on the hammer. Let the anvil work for you, use the rebound.
Blisters: All I can say is to develop blacksmiths hands, which unfortunatly you probably wont be able to do smithing blades..Lisa is ashamded of my hands :D They are a network of callouses and scars so thick my hands feel like boot soles..Between the blacksmithing, welding and farm work I havent had a blister in years..
I go barehanded the vast magority of the time because my hands are so big I cant find gloves to fit unless I order them :rolleyes:
 
I kept wondering why he was complaining about the heat in the dead of winter. The I noticed that the OP was from July ... of 2004?
 
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