Blunt Kukri

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Gorillalove

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I've wondering about getting a blunt edged Kukri for practicing I'm my heavy bag. Or using it as skull crusher, for crushing zombie skulls.

Anybody seen/heard of this before? I'm talking about almost the same thickness as the spine.
 
Sure. You can get or make trainers for just about any weapon. You might get a discussion in the Cantina.
 
I say get a blem AK, a KLVUK, or just any blem you like, with intent to file the edge. Then use it for a while, fall in love, decide you could never do that to your new favorite blade, and buy another khuk. Repeat.
 
Khuks dont need to be "sharp" to be effective choppers, but i wouldn't really want one that was purposely blunt. Blunt with no edge won't behave like a khuk with an edge, so it would make for a poor trainer. Even the most marginal edge would destroy your heavy bag in short order.

Personally, for training, I would make one out of thick polymer. You're not worried so much about the exact weight as you are the technique and angle of attack. Large cutting boards make a good material for that sort of thing. I've actually thought about making me a little 15" dog-walking poly khuk to carry when we go on walks. The neighbors have some dogs that aren't exactly mean, but they like to sort of rush up on us a bit. I don't want to shoot them or split their noggins, but a love tap from a piece of plastic shaped like a knife I have been swinging nearly daily for a decade+ might get their attention;)

As for a zombie skull crusher: In all seriousness, if I was looking for a hand-to-hand that wasn't a khuk, I'd pick a nice all steel framing hammer. Indestructible and designed to be swung all day long. Plus, you'd leave little mark to warn other zombies to watch out for the man who leaves "waffle marks" on heads of their re-deaded brethren;)
 
I've seen polymer and aluminum trainer Khukuri and swords on the big auction site and other internet locations where I get my tomahawk and knife trainers. Steely is correct, the trainers might not cut but they can do the deed. And having large plastic KLO's or others in your vehicle or on person are sorta sheeple friendly. My daughters have 16" X 1/2" thick polymer tomahawk trainers in their vehicles. We just leather wrapped the handles to make up for grip size. These trainers can raise knots! Painted bright colors makes them even more sheeple camo.
 
I made a wooden khukri for Scara? or maybe Snowwolf, I don't recall for sure. The feel was semi correct, I added a bunch of pencil lead to try to get the weight forward feel of the real thing with limited success. I suspect it served it's purpose, not sure how well.
Perhaps he'll add his two cents.

On Steely's post, I caught some thieves in my job trailer on a construction site trying to steal tools and what not. This was before cell phone days. I was younger, a whole lot fitter and of course vertical. I was easily able to hold them for police without even swinging my framing axe which was of course in my hand.
I laughed when the cops showed up in force, after a coworker went and called them, apparently they had been looking for these guys.
He told them you both are lucky to be alive. These carpenters swing those framing hammers everyday and they know how to use em.
You'd have a better chance of surviving a Sioux warrior attack. After the lads were hauled off I told the cop I thought them Sioux warriors were pretty darn handy with them tomahawks, he agreed but said he was on a roll.
 
Steely_Gunz said:
.... As for a zombie skull crusher: In all seriousness, if I was looking for a hand-to-hand that wasn't a khuk, I'd pick a nice all steel framing hammer. Indestructible and designed to be swung all day long. Plus, you'd leave little mark to warn other zombies to watch out for the man who leaves "waffle marks" on heads of their re-deaded brethren;)
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If you can find or make a framing hammer with a big "W" on the head like a branding iron, you'd be in tune with the new season of "The Walking Dead."
 
Bawanna said:
I made a wooden khukri for Scara? or maybe Snowwolf, I don't recall for sure. The feel was semi correct, I added a bunch of pencil lead to try to get the weight forward feel of the real thing with limited success. I suspect it served it's purpose, not sure how well.
Perhaps he'll add his two cents.

On Steely's post, I caught some thieves in my job trailer on a construction site trying to steal tools and what not. This was before cell phone days. I was younger, a whole lot fitter and of course vertical. I was easily able to hold them for police without even swinging my framing axe which was of course in my hand.
I laughed when the cops showed up in force, after a coworker went and called them, apparently they had been looking for these guys.
He told them you both are lucky to be alive. These carpenters swing those framing hammers everyday and they know how to use em.
You'd have a better chance of surviving a Sioux warrior attack. After the lads were hauled off I told the cop I thought them Sioux warriors were pretty darn handy with them tomahawks, he agreed but said he was on a roll.
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That was for me. It really feels like a light kukri, but the balance and feel are correct.

There's also Keen Edge Knives. They make aluminum trainers, and their kukri trainers are actually shaped like kukris.
 
Framing hammers these days are pneumatic. Betting over 50% of the carpenter apprentices wouldn't even know why the old hammers had a waffle head. Heck I know guys who filed those flat on their new hammers while they were tuning them. (yes people who swing hammers for a living day in and day out tune their hammers to their own strikes) As for the "blunt" version for training. I think the poly board (plastic cutting board) version is a really good idea for training. As for the weight, that is less important for training if you maintain strength/core exercises in general, just need to learn the proper swings/combos for the shapes so again poly is going to be a great choice. Just one of my MANY not so humble opinions :D
 
When I worked for a commercial construction outfit I caught the boss's brother who drove the tool truck and also played laborer just beating on a cement curb. I asked him what the heck he was trying to accomplish.
He said it just tenderized his thumb and fingers when he missed a nail and he was dulling down those waffle points so it didn't hurt so bad.

From then on he'd get a new hammer (company credit card) and give it to me and I'd give him my wore down one. He wasn't the brightest light in the harbor. I watched him mature and get some sense but it was a slow process.

Shavru I hadn't thought of it but your probably right, everybody now days uses a nail gun, there's still times and places where only a hammer will do but they get used a lot less.

Some of the hammers I see now days are so different, I used a Vaughn Framing axe because it was just so well balanced and the weight was right, not great for pulling nails but a great hammer. Still have several.
 
I'm a swimming pool contractor by trade. We do no framing of any kind, but my foreman uses an orange handled framing hammer for pretty much every hammering needs. Setting forms, driving pins, knocking rocks out of the way, etc. It's kinda funny how many uses he finds for it every day.

I will say, the man paints his world with colorful language on the best of days, when the waffle finds the mark on his thumb, he gets down right artistic. I've never heard so many ways a hammer could be accused of foricating with its own mother;)
 
A blunt edged khukuri is still deadly and would probably do a number on a heavy bag. It would be like training with a lead pipe. If I wanted such a thing to accurately model impacts I would consider getting an inexpensive Indian khukuri, taking off the edge with a bench grinder, and possibly taping or rubber padding the edge.

However, a sharp edge does enforce a certain discipline, even in training. One can also model cutting and impacts by specially designed cutting or crushing targets. They don't last long though.
 
You can always hang a log instead of a heavy bag. If you don't already have one hanging outside.
 
LoL Steely that made my think of an old Top Sergeant I had decades ago when you could actually still swear at troops. He would always start by addressing me with "Ma'am, please excuse my incivil tongue. However I need to address this issue in words that these troops will comprehend" And then he would about face and probably have given your foreman a run for his language explaining the ill-favored conception of each of the troops and their "being born out of wedlock as the issue of a union of lobotomized first-cousin trolls".

Bawanna, I have a Framing Axe that I acquired from my Grandpa who retired as a Captain in the SeaBees he actually carried the thing in a modified 1911 holster during WW2. We keep it with hubbie's Grandpa's 1911. They were both stationed in the same general area of the Pacific near same time but as far as we can tell never crossed paths directly.
 
How cool is that! I have a story for sometime about my tool belt when I was a nail bender.

Fits this forum perfectly, involves a seedy neighborhood, a knife, a 1911 and a scared carpenter and a slow learning laborer.

I'll post that. I still chuckle about it after all these years.
 
To be honest I want it as a SHTF weapon that won't need sharpening.

Filing an existing edge would still be to narrow for repeated bone strikes I think.

I already has a hammer, but not sure how long the handle would last.
 
Gorillalove said:
To be honest I want it as a SHTF weapon that won't need sharpening.

Filing an existing edge would still be to narrow for repeated bone strikes I think.

I already has a hammer, but not sure how long the handle would last.
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Ask Yangdu if she has any super thick edged 15" AKs. I had one that Sher made back around 2002-3 that was nearly 1/2 thick and the edge came down to such a thick edge, it was more hatchet than knife. Actually, if I remember correctly, Uncle Bill sold it to me because someone had returned it because they couldn't sharpen such a thick edge.

I kept it sharp, but it could have been butter knife dull and still done crazy amounts of damage.

As for a hammer, check out the Estwing stuff. Good quality, great value, available at Lowes and Home depot for sub $30.

I recently found my dad's old hammer hanging in the "old part" of our old warehouse. It's a simple tool as we aren't the kind of folks to spend buckets of money on tools that the help may "borrow" and leave on the job.

It was rusted to a pegboard and probably hadn't been swung in a decade. That said, I remember it. Back in the old days, my family did a lot of general contracting work. That hammer has probably framed countless walls and formed more concrete pours than are imaginable. It's a simple claw hammer with a secondary puller in the claw. Old old OLD cracked vinyl handle and the solid steel shaft has the slightest bend. My dad's still a bear of a man, and at 60 can still work circles around 20 year old kids. However, 30 years ago, he was a damned beast. I know that hammer was wrung to hell and back being swung just as hard as his 20" arms could whip it through the air to bust apart stubborn concrete forms.

I thought about fixing that bend, but I think it's earned the right to be crooked. If you can find a solid steel shaft hammer of good quality, I can pretty much guaranty you that nothing short of actually trying to break the thing by mechanical means will cause it to fail. Zombie Uprising included;)
 
NEVER, repeat NEVER straighten that shaft. You are definitely correct, it earned that crook. It would be wrong to change it one bit.
 
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