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RGRAY

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I would like to know. who likes to use the thumb stub and who likes to use the lock button to open their knives? Is this the first manual double action? I have been accused of wanting a gravity knife. For me, the lock button is natural. Easy open and easy close. I am sure everybody flicks it down to close it. Am I wrong?

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RICK LEFTIES UNITE




[This message has been edited by RGRAY (edited 29 October 1999).]
 
Use the lock button pull and a little flip to open an Axis Lock when you're just fooling around with the knife in private or in the company of other known "knife people." It's a nifty way to open it. With a good smooth Axis Lock, I can do it fairly gracefully with little motion and hardly any click.

Use the thumb stud when you're in public or mixed company and you don't want to be impolite and scare people, and also any time you just want the knife to open and lock in place reliably.

Yes, it's a double action gravity knife. But then so are most other lock-blade folders with a reasonably smooth action, if you get the flipping motion right. Again, use the thumb stud or thumb hole in public or for reliability.




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Hi Jim, first time I've talked to you. Thanks for replying. I don't feel like a criminal any more. I fine the button is more reliable than the thumb studs for opening because sometimes my index finger catches the bottom thumb stud. By the way, if you remove the thumb studs would the blade drop further in the handle? This is one of my favorite knives. I have a callis on my left thumb. Speaking of which. I dare anyone to name a more ambidextrous knife! Or one that is quicker CLOSING!

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RICK LEFTIES UNITE


 
The big one, the 710 I tend to use the lock button and let the blade open itself. The smaller 705 I almost always use the thumb stud. There isn't enough mass in the blade to make it open (or close) smoothly on it's own. Also, being left handed too, I generally carry the 705 as a "right hand knife" which limits it's flickability quite a bit.

That said, I agree 100% with James' comment as to when a flick is not appropriate. Large knives scare lots of people, especially when they seem to come from nowhere, are moving fast, and produce a metallic click. Nervous people are not your friends, don't make them nervous for nothing!


Mike
 
I prefer using the thumb studs when others are around, though I'll just flick the knife with neither stud nor lock fiddling, when no one else is around.

On the other hand, I always close this knife by pulling back on the lock and snapping my wrist up -- if you do it right, it closes like a reverse switchblade
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One of the few things I'd change on the 710 would be to swap out the thumb studs for a blade disc (the others being to make the blade and handle both 5/8" shorter, so less hangs out the end of my hand, and build the blade out of M2).

My $0.02...

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Carl /\/\/\ AKTI #A000921

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Hi Mike, Thanks for mentioning that the 705 isn't that easy to flick open and closed because of the mass. Being left handed I hope you respond to my thread on a Left Handers Forum. I wonder how the 720 is? Carl you may want to try the 705 or 720. I would like one a little larger. A 4 inch blade, maybe mirror polished.

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RICK LEFTIES UNITE


 
For some reason, I tend to flip my 710 open rather than use the studs or play with the lock release. Don't know why. I don't do that with my other sport utility folders as a rule. With my 710 it just seems to work.
 
RGRAY,

I saw the Lefties thread and tried to post the first night, kept getting internal server error and finally went to bed.

That thread really took off! I need to find the time to sit down and read my way through it.

Maybe this weekend


Mike
 
God, you guys are kidding, right? Some of you actually slide back the locking bar and THEN flick out the blade?

Haven't any of you ever used a Gerber Multi-Plier...just *flick*.

I just hold the handle of my 710sbt and give it a VERY small shake(without touching the thumb studs or the locking bar) and vwalla!
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Works like a charm!

The first time I ever opened a 710, on the other hand, I slid back the locking bar and gave the knife a shake...the blade snapped right out, bounced off of the stop pin, and almost lopped my fingers off! (OK, maybe I was doing it a BIT fast
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Yeah! Drop the chalupa...


 
There are a lot of knives that you can flip open, overcoming the friction and/or spring tension that hold them closed. The Axis Lock is different from most of them in that there is a sliding button on the handle that you pull back to relieve the spring tension, so that, depending on pivot screw adjustment, the blade can swing open freely. That just might make some folks call it a gravity knife, so watch who's around you when you do that. California law provides a safe harbor to knives with thumb studs (I think a Microtech DA auto is street-legal here), but there are a lot of other jurisdictions where we wouldn't want some authority figure making an issue of it.

And do watch your technique when you do the button-back Axis Lock flip in the privacy of your home or office. The trick is to release that button again before the blade hits the stop pin and bounces off. Practice. Practice. Practice.
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My 710 would snap open withuot the button if required in an emergency, but with a slight shake of the wrist? Maybe mine isn't broken in yet. I could adjust it so that might work, but not with inducing too much side play in the open blade.


Mike
 
Stompy,be careful. Practice with gloves first. There is a technic to using the locking bar.I have used it hundreds of times and I have the callous to prove it. How do you close it? pull down and flick? I just read somewhere you can pull it out of your pocket and catching the thumb stud on your pocket open it. Anybody do this?


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RICK Left Handers Unite

 
Just got my Mel Pardue Axis lock in. It seems to be even smoother inoperation than the 710 i have. and the polished blade is even sharper than the 710. Both great knives,but still like carnivour better because of bigger blade and handle fit. But Bm axis locks are smoother than Carnivour in operation. Liner lockers may be obsolete although still like my Da Socom and Military,both of which look plenty strong to me.
 
Pherhaps you guys missed my explanation of how I open my Axis...

First off, the blade stays completely and safely closed at ALL times in my pocket. Second, the blade locks VERY securely in the open position. And lastly, I have never actually gotten around to oiling it since I got it!

I don't use the thumb studs or slide back the locking bar in ANY way, I just give the knife a little *flick*, and taDA! Works left and right handed, right side up and upside down...and I can even do it behind my back with my right hand! And, I have never even come close to throwing the knife
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Yeah! Drop the chalupa...


 
Hi Stompy. you just flick! I find that doesn't work everytime and I might have to do it several times and look dumb. Yours must be looser than mine. I guess I like playing with the lock bar.

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RICK Left Handers Unite

 
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