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Guillaume

Guillaume

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Among the designers working at Benchmade, do you know who are the ones who work on balisong design ?
Who has designed the BM42 ?

Thanks guys,
Guillaume

NB: BM designers = Jason Williams, Bill McHenry, Mel Pardue, Warren Osborne, Bob Terzuola, Allen Elishewitz, Les deAsis (CEO).
 
Vance Collver designed the Bowie on the new model 43. I think Jody Sampson designed the Weehawk blade.
 
Jason Williams, Bill McHenry, Mel Pardue, Warren Osborne, Bob Terzuola, Allen Elishewitz, Les deAsis (CEO).
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These gentlemen, while all very distinguished, are not BM Designers. With the exception of Mr. DeAsis, who, I think, at least in this forum, needs no further introduction, these gentlemen are custom knife designers and makers who are either now or have in the past, licensed designs to BM. Mr. Elishewitz and Mr. Pat Crawford, whom you left off of your list, also made a very limited number of blades for the exclusive final-edition custom Bali-Songs.

To the best of my knowledge, none of the gentlemen on your list was involved with the BM42.

Mr. JGardnerA is correct that Mr. Samson is the original designer of the Weehawk profile and that Mr. Collver designed the new Collver Clip-point bowie for the 43.
 
Should we say that Elishewitz designed the new 47 blade? The new 47 tanto blade looks [obviously] like the design was taken from Elishewitz's custom tanto Bali-Song blades.
 
If you were to look, my guess is that you'd find that Mr. Elishewitz's design is not entirely original. This is not meant as anything disrespectful. It's just true.
 
I've got a lot of degrees and diplomas. Most of them are hanging on the wall in this room. I sometimes forget about some of them, so I rechecked carefully. As I suspected, not one of them is in Library Science.
 
If you were to look, my guess is that you'd find that Mr. Elishewitz's design is not entirely original.
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Where did you look to find out that his design was not original?


I've got a lot of degrees and diplomas. Most of them are hanging on the wall in this room. I sometimes forget about some of them, so I rechecked carefully. As I suspected, not one of them is in Library Science.
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You had to have read or seen something that told you that he copied someone else's design, I just wanted to know what you saw or read.
 
BTTT, maybe Chuck is away finding pictures of the blades that Elishewitz copied, I just want to make sure that this thread is here for him to find easily when he gets back. ;)
 
Originally posted by BalisongMan
BTTT, maybe Chuck is away finding pictures of the blades that Elishewitz copied, I just want to make sure that this thread is here for him to find easily when he gets back. ;)
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He should be able to find it, with all those degrees & diplomas!
 
Again, I am not a research librarian. Please do your own research.

The tanto is nothing new and the idea of a drop-point is not new either.
 
Chuck, on your website you used to have a page that showed an Elishewitz custom, latchless, snakewood handles and an Elishewitz tanto blade, numbered of course. In the message and description of the knife you said that his tanto is so unique that it was given its own name.
Then you say that he copied the design of the blade and it is not original (let me state that you never said that it was original) but you haven't been able to back up that statement. I didn't ask for the history of the tanto I just wanted to know which knives and makers Elishewitz copied, **** me if I know where to look, apparently since you "know" that the blade style was copied you know where to look or who to talk to.
 
In the message and description of the knife you said that his tanto is so unique that it was given its own name.
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I did not say such a thing since it is not true that this knife has its own name.

I certainly said that this Tanto is a great design and that I like it much better than most other Tantos. Those are the same sorts of comments that I made about the 47, in fact. I may also have said that the knife is a totally unique which it is. Other's may claim to have the rarest of all balisongs and they may even present very impressive specimens to portent that title. But, the specific snakewood insert piece that you refer to is certainly a strong contender to that crown.
(However, if we were to hold a contest for the rarest and most exotic of all balisongs, that snakewood piece would not be my entry.)

However, will all due respect to Mr. Elishewitz, and a lot of deep respect is due to Mr. Elishewitz who I have met, he did not invent the Tanto nor did he invent the drop point. With some small research, I suspect that you'll find prior art for the Tanto dating back some thousand years or more and for the the drop point probably dating back at least a hundred.

Again, let me say that Mr. Elishewitz's implimentation of a drop point tanto as seen on that snakewood custom and as seen on several other examples that occupy high positions in my collection, is wonderful. I think it's the best rendition of the classic tanto that I've ever seen.

Certainly the 47's blade is inspired by that Elishewitz tanto. I think I commented about that in my Bladeshow article.

But, to the best of my knowledge, and I may be wrong, Mr. Elishewitz did not directly participate in the design of the 47.
 
Ahhh, I see. I know that Elishewitz didn't invent either the tanto or drop point but I thought that you had said that he was the first to combine the 2.
If there was a contest, which balisong would you enter Chuck? :D
Is the drop-point tanto the only tanto that Elishewitz ever put on a balisong?
 
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