BM42 handles loosening....

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drjones

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Hi. I've had my BM42s for about a month, and I LOVE it, but i have noticed recently that the handles are loosening just a BIT... Am I being too anal here? I would like to know if its possible to tighten them at all with the torx kit, and I also want to know what you all have done about this, if its happened to you.

Thanks!
Strati
evourakis@csus.edu
 
OK. FNG sticking his nose in, so bear with me. Last time I had a Bali, it was a Pacific Cutlery weehawk in high school (I was pretty good with it, too!
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) Now, shouldn't the handles BE somewhat loose (have some back and forth play) for smooth pivoting? I remember my PCs handles got REAL loose after my playing with it for a year or so - thought nothing of it. 'Course, I WAS only in high school.
 
Yeah, tightening the screws on the 42 is really easy to do and a quick fix. Even though they don't look as classy as the older "hidden" pins, they are much more user friendly as far as adjustment goes.

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Steve
(Third Mate for hire!)
 
The joints should be loose enough that there is no binding at all, but not so loose that the blade wobbles excessively. The downside of making anything adjustable is that it is adjustable and can get "out of adjustment." It's possible that the screws on Mr. Drjones 42 have worked themselves out just a bit. If this problem repeats itself after you tighten 'em back up to your liking, then you may need to just a little Loctite. Be sure to use the low-strength removable Loctite if it comes to that.


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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
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Yah dont try to make the handles have no wobble. I did that and they wouldnt move. Get the torx kit though and if you gently adjust the tightness you can get it to a pretty good tightness. Or you could just leave it, BM does a pretty good job of tightening it themselves.

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I have a sword in my pocket!
 
This may sound like a stupid reply, but make sure it's well-oiled, too. I re-oiled mine the other day... made a world of difference in how it handled, and made it feel more solid. No need for adjustment, just the oil filling the gaps that should be there anyway to allow it to do its job.
 
Thanks you guys. I think I'm just going to leave it, for several reasons; 1)I'll probably do SOMETHING to screw up my baby somehow, 2) I'll have paid $10 plus shipping (for the torx kit) for the privelige of screwing up my knife!
Lothar.OTHP: I use Militec-1, which is pretty cool stuff. It doesn't seem to be absolutely AMAZING like everyone says, but it definitely does a good job. I do notice a big difference right after I lube it up.

Just a note to you Militec-1 users; DO NOT ATTEMPT TO HEAT YOUR BABY BM42 IN ORDER TO APPLY THE MILITEC. I DISCOLORED THE BASE OF MY BLADE (near the tang pin, on one side of the blade) DOING SO. I was only using a hair-dryer, as recommended. I still need to try using a polishing cloth that I got on it, to see if that will get it off. (I SURE hope so!!!) Anyway, just my experience. The militec seems to work fine without heat. Can't wait to try it on my gun.

Thanks again for your replies
Strati
 
Wow! What kind of a hair dryer to you have? Do you have problems with split ends? If so, I think I know why. Dry scalp? I can explain that too.

To discolor the metal, you'd have to heat it above the final heat-treat temperature. I don't know BM's profile, but I'd bet that it ends well above 400F. Water boils a bit over 200F. So, you'd have to heat that blade to at least twice the boiling temperature of water to discolor it. My hairdryer will not do anything close to that.

BTW, Militec-1 gets better each time you use it for about the first five or so applications. So, give it time.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
Chuck - just used a standard, run-of-the-mill haridryer. No probs. with dry scalp or split ends, thank you!
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Like I said, it may just be cosmetic and just require a bit of polish to get off, but either way, I'm not happy about it, and I'm never doing it again!!! I would (obviously) also recommend that no one else try it either!!!

Thanks
Strati
 
drJones,

Thanks for the tip. I was planning to get and use Miltec-1 on my BM42. Will not do that now.

Still going to get Miltec-1 anyway for my other knives.

/Colinz
 
Colinz - the militec-1 is fine for your BM, just do NOT attempt to heat the knife before application. They say that gently heating the surface you wish to apply the militec to helps it bond to the surface, however, in my case, for some reason the heat turned the blade a color. It was NOT because of the Militec. USE the Militec on your BM! You'll Love it!!!

Strati
 
I talked with the guys from Mil-Tech1 in KC at the NRA Show. They had a display and demonstration set up. They said to USE HEAT in the range of 140` to allow the synthetic lubricant to ionize and bond to the metal surfaces being treated. The carrier dissapates/evaporates and leaves the surfaces protected for up to two years. The only lubricating applications that I don't use MilTech1 for are when I need a light grease. "It's good stuff, Maynard!"
 
Could it be that you had some other substance on the area of the blade that discolored??? Maybe there was a thin coat of something weird that turned color when you applied the hairdryer...

If that is the case, it should polish off with a little elbow grease.

My girlfriend gave me strange looks when I appropriated her hair dryer to heat up my BM 42... I got it hot enough to make the handles uncomfortable to hold. No discoloration (after three applications).

Good luck.

Alan

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I didn't have the miltec... so I did what any other goofball would do, and used fresh synthetic motor oil.
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actually, once I got the excess wiped away, it really works well.
 
Has anyone noticed a black goop that seems to form around the tang pin on the BM42a when you flip after using Militech 1? And what is a normal amount of wear for the tang pin on this knife?

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Wayne.
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Yes, I notice the same black crap around the tang pin, and around the latch pin as well. Does anyone know what this is from?

Thanks
Strati
 
I have also noticed that the tang pin is slightly worn on its left and tight top from the impact from the Ti handles and that a grove is forming slightly down from the top of the tang pin top on the side of it. Is this normal? Will the metal deform and harden? Or will the tang pin wear out quickly? What is the life time of a BM42? Asuming about 100 flips a day (average)

It was very nice of my friend to let me play with HIS
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Wayne.
"To strive to seek to find and not to yield"
Tennyson
Ranger motto

A few useful details on UK laws and some nice reviews!
http://members.aol.com/knivesuk/
Certified steel snob!
 
crease is probably just from banging against the Ti... no biggie. It's just the shiny part that shows wear, while the rest of the pin slowly gets dirtier... (well, that's my guess, anyway. alternate theories involve rabid space aliens using the tang pins to remove staples from a shoe repair gone bad)
 
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