Boker Apparo vs Aitor Jungle King -- Which is the best Survival Knife?

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Having grown up with the Action Films of the 80s and 90s, I'm a sucker for the old Survival Knives which were featured prominently in such films during the time, most notably beginning with the first Rambo movie, First Blood, hence the common colloquialism "Rambo Knives" for the design.
These knives typically had hollow handles with threaded waterproof caps used to store miniature survival kits and stainless steel blades with serrations or sawteeth on the spine. Unfortunately, due to the inherent weakness of the design coupled with the sheer amount of cheapo chinese knives which had flooded the market at the time, they have become somewhat synonymous with being brittle or easily broken, although there were a few high quality examples of such blades such as the Buckmaster 184, the Randal 18, or the authentic Jimmy Lyle "The Mission" Knife featured in First Blood.

As much as I love these knives, I don't actually own a high quality example of one, simply because many of them are no longer in production, expensive, or both. However, some still remain in production which are both affordable and high quality.

Currently, the only such knife I own is the Rothco Ramster, a cheap Taiwanese clone of the Buckmaster 184, which while awesome, and surprisingly durable, just hasn't quite scratched the itch.

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Based on my research, the two best examples of such knives which are still in current production are the Boker Apparo and Aitor Jungle King I. The question is, which is better?

The Aitor Jungle King I is substantially more expensive ($230+ vs $130+) and made in Spain (rather than China) which would seem to indicate higher quality, but both seem to be fantastic knives, and I've never heard of either breaking.

I'm probably grasping at straws here, but I'm curious if anyone here owns either or especially both and could provide me with some impressions on them.
 
I can't help you with answering your question about which one is better, but wanted to chime in to mention that the Boker Plus Apparo, while still available on some dealer shelves, has in fact been discontinued.

I have the Boker Plus Apparo, but only as an addition to my collection. Sorry I can't help you with your question. I have read that Boker made sure to have their construction very closely follow the method that Martin Knives used to make the Custom versions, and that Martin method is what made his knives gain a great reputation for being extremely tough. It was all in his method of attachment of blade to handle that made his knife a success 😊

Here's a pic of my specimen alongside a Buckmaster 184 and 185 😊

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Man, where to begin? (*For me, at least)


I've posted this twice, in the last coupla' months, in a coupla' different threads. I'm a child of the 70's and a teen of the 80's. So, I grew-up lusting after John Rambo's "Lile" blades, John Matrix' "Crain" blade, and even Mick Dundee's "...THAT'S a knife" blade. I'm old enough to have seen those movies when they were actually in the theatres and not just on Turner Classic Movies.

Very early on, hollow-handled knives got a much-deserved bad name. Back then, the production methods weren't what they are today. To build something like a Lile took a lot of time and effort, and wasn't exactly affordable for most folks. (*including me) So, many of the "affordable" knives were absolute hot garbage. Many of them were decent cutting instruments but not much more. As far as a hard use/survival-type knife, you were pretty much SOL if you didn't have the big bucks.

Back then, the best (*relatively) affordable option was the Aitor. It was decently strong, but still out of my reach. (*as a teenager bussing tables in a hotel restaurant) I think I was making about $2.00/hour at the time, and my V8 Pontiac (*That was actually a car brand at one time) ate much of my earnings.


To try to answer your question, I have never owned an Aitor but can tell you that they have been around for decades. I had Friends who had them, and beat on 'em as you would expect any teenager to do. (*who was doing their best "Rambo" impression). As I remember, MOST survived those beatings...and that's saying a lot.

As far as I know, the limited tang of the Aitor is inserted and pinned into the hollow-handled section. The Kizlyar (*a Russian-made option) is produced in a similar fashion. As you probably already know, the blade/handle junction is the "Achilles' heel" of hollow-handled knives. As you also know, ANYTHING can be broken. Were they as strong as an exposed tang fixie? No...definitely not. However, as I typed, they were still pretty strong. I seen both used, and I've seen both broken.


Fast-forward a few decades and insert Newt Martin (*RIP) into the mix. Mr. Martin set-out to build some bomb-proof hollow-handled knives, and did an outstanding job as far as I know. As I understand it, he would thread the tang (*about 1.75") and the hollow-handled handle/tube to match, fit the guard, screw everything together, and then apoxy the whole assembly with some industrial-grade glue. Regrettably, I never spent the money on a custom "Martin Knives" blade. I sure wish I had.

When I learned about the Boker Apparo, I was very excited to say the least. Admittedly, I was REALLY looking for the "good". However, because of my age, I also tried to remember all the "bad" too. Despite that, I really couldn't find any "bad". Everything I read/watched sung the praises of the Apparo. Man, I jumped like a car burglar on an unlocked vehicle. And, I can honestly say that I couldn't be happier that I did. What a tremendous knife! It was everything I'd always wanted in a hollow-handled knife.

Since I don't know what links I can share or not share without breaking any forum rules, I'll just share this one... (*I feel pretty confident that I won't be breaking any rules by doing so)




To be continued...
 
Anyhoo, in a former life, I used to find myself (*all alone) at desolate Farms and Ranches here in South Texas. Many years ago, I abandoned my "camp hatchet" and Buck 119 combo and decided to start "playing" with really hard-use/"one tool option" fixies. Now, I own a pretty good selection of hard-use fixed blades (*TOPS, Becker, Barky, ESEE, Busse, etc.) and have a better idea of what I'm dealing with.

If you know anything about South Texas Ranches, many have established wood piles of sectioned/aged (*very hard) wood that is great for "Texas A&M"-style bond-fires, but not much good for a small grill or camp stove. So, I've had the opportunity to use many of my fixies for reducing wood for cooking and starting small campfires.

When I finally acquired the Apparo, I decided to treat it EXACTLY as I would my TOPS 107E/Becker BK-9 and BK-2/Barky Trakker/ESEE-5/Busse Hell Razor 2. I went out with only it and the Buck 110 Slim Select in my pocket, and showed it no quarter. Honestly, it has not disappointed...





 
As PocketKnifeJimmy mentioned, I think Boker and Mr. Martin took a "blood oath" when Newt finally opted to release his design for mass production. Beyond that, and judging from the quality of the knife, I think that Mr. Martin may've exercised a great deal of oversight over the actual production.

If you have a basic understanding of knife design and blade steel, respect that, and use it within those parameters (*as with any tool), I think you'll absolutely fall in love with the Apparo. For a hollow-handled design, it's an absolute BRUTE of a knife.



As with anything, your mileage may vary. Happy huntin'...
 
Anyhoo, in a former life, I used to find myself (*all alone) at desolate Farms and Ranches here in South Texas. Many years ago, I abandoned my "camp hatchet" and Buck 119 combo and decided to start "playing" with really hard-use/"one tool option" fixies. Now, I own a pretty good selection of hard-use fixed blades (*TOPS, Becker, Barky, ESEE, Busse, etc.) and have a better idea of what I'm dealing with.

If you know anything about South Texas Ranches, many have established wood piles of sectioned/aged (*very hard) wood that is great for "Texas A&M"-style bond-fires, but not much good for a small grill or camp stove. So, I've had the opportunity to use many of my fixies for reducing wood for cooking and starting small campfires.

When I finally acquired the Apparo, I decided to treat it EXACTLY as I would my TOPS 107E/Becker BK-9 and BK-2/Barky Trakker/ESEE-5/Busse Hell Razor 2. I went out with only it and the Buck 110 Slim Select in my pocket, and showed it no quarter. Honestly, it has not disappointed...








I should have jumped on one of those when they were selling for so cheap :-(
 
As PocketKnifeJimmy mentioned, I think Boker and Mr. Martin took a "blood oath" when Newt finally opted to release his design for mass production. Beyond that, and judging from the quality of the knife, I think that Mr. Martin may've exercised a great deal of oversight over the actual production.

If you have a basic understanding of knife design and blade steel, respect that, and use it within those parameters (*as with any tool), I think you'll absolutely fall in love with the Apparo. For a hollow-handled design, it's an absolute BRUTE of a knife.



As with anything, your mileage may vary. Happy huntin'...
Very well written, Sir! 👍👍
 
I'm sad to see that prices on the Boker Apparo have increased so substantially, but I suppose that it makes sense since they're discontinued now.
I wish that I had been quicker when they were on Clearance for $79.95, but by the time I saw PocketKnifeJimmy's thread on it, they were already sold out. Now they're going for $160+ everywhere I've looked. :(
 
I'm sad to see that prices on the Boker Apparo have increased so substantially, but I suppose that it makes sense since they're discontinued now.
I wish that I had been quicker when they were on Clearance for $79.95, but by the time I saw PocketKnifeJimmy's thread on it, they were already sold out. Now they're going for $160+ everywhere I've looked. :(

I have landed quite a few blowout clearance deals at Knifecenter, my Aparro being one of them. I don't think the prices in other places jumped up much, if any at all recently, I just think that Knifecenter's clearance price makes the normal prices seem high. I believe the full MSRP had reached a level of over $200, so paying $160, while not the killer deal that KC was offering them at, is still a fair price.

KC sold them out EXTREMELY fast at 75'ish bucks! 😅
 
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