Boker Plus Anti-MC thoughts, feelings

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I know at least one member wanted a review of the Boker Plus Anti-MC ceramic titanium frame-lock knife, and I got mine today. So here's an early review. Take it with a grain of salt.

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I bought the knife for about $60+shipping, really because I just wanted a ceramic knife to collect and this was the first one I saw that's relatively affordable, made of quality materials (though I couldn't say what the washers are made from since they're white,) and has a proven design/locking mechanism.

Specs
- 3 1/4 inch blade
- 4 1/2 inch closed
- 2.5 oz

Design

Effective but cookie-cutter. No style beyond the circular pentagonal half of the pivot screw and the fact the blade is black. No jimping up top though I can grip the knife very tightly so it's basically unnecessary; people with large hands might have a harder time. Pocket clip is totally off-the-shelf though the knife does ride very low in the pocket if that's your sort of thing. The position of the clip cannot be altered; it's either on or off.
The knife is thin (major plus in my book) and light enough to feel comfortable yet also feels a bit insubstantial even given the strength of titanium.
The only things that sets this knife apart aesthetically, from any other knife, are the black blade and circular pentagonal-dotted end of the pivot screw. To my line of thinking, this makes it perfect for embellishment like engraving or possibly laser-marking since despite its sleekness it's also boring and uninspired.

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(Cool out how it reflected the sunlight, huh?)

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Functionality
Difficult to say. This is obviously not a camping knife, it's more of a domestic knife. The ceramic blade is as sharp as the Devil himself (pretty sharp) and should stay that way a long time without abuse. The non-reactive nature of ceramic and also titanium makes it great for cutting up fruit and some food (cut, rinse, dry), but it's too small to be considered a kitchen knife. If I knew how easily it chips and what I should or should not cut with it I'd be able to make a better comment.
But I will say: the knife works. Simple, efficient design seeking to fulfill a purpose.

Quality
The MSRP is $80 and that seems about right. You can flick it open in an instant and mine locks up really well. The way it sort of "clicks" shut is also satisfying. The titanium is smooth and more scratch-proof than anodized titanium. I still have major questions about the strength and durability of this type of ceramic of course, and the pocket clip is of low quality, but otherwise I'm a happy guy.

Value
Don't pay more than $65 maximum for this knife.


Overall, I'd give the Boker Plus Anti-MC a 10 on a scale of 0-13. This was never bought as an EDC knife but I look forward to cutting things with it.

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Review downgraded a half-point to 9.5/13. Main reason? A teensy bit (less than a millimeter) of lateral and vertical blade play. Why does that matter? With a "precision" instrument like this, you don't want the blade moving at all. Adjustment of the pivot screw did not really help. It seems to happen because the lock doesn't fully engage, and I mean 100% across. When holding the knife firmly in the "standard" position (4 fingers on the handle/thumb on top,) the lock engages well enough, but I often don't hold the knife that way. Minor annoyance.

I'm not really counting this against the Anti-MC, but some knives you can "play" with (get a feel for, stress them, test them, etc..) This is not really one of those knives. It's so sharp and the blade is so delicate* that you need to have a basic plan before you use the knife. ("What am I cutting? What am I cutting on?") I still see its primary utility as a portable fruit and (some) food knife, and it works great in that regard. The black blade is still sexy, though it is a fingerprint magnet.
*I wish I knew more about its strength but I can't test that without risking a chip or a break.

I feel this knife is a step in the right direction. If they could alter or reinforce the ceramic somehow to make it stronger but still retain that laser-sharp edge, more people would be buying these things. Time will tell how ceramic folders fare in the knife world...

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Got my first micro-chip (less than 1mm) cutting through the hardest part of a fried plantain. Guess we can cross fried plantains off the list of things which should be cut with this knife. No deduction in rating, it was very hard food.
 
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very cool, I'm still thinking about picking one of these up. Thanks for the review.
 
great review!

I'm really curious as to the performance of the blade material... someone needs to do a cut test!

shame it can't be sharpened easily at home (i think)
 
thx jesse!

how about some pics with other popular knives?

i'd like one, especially at that price. but i would have to immediately send it to str for a tip up mod. hmmmm.....



please keep us updated as to how you like it after some carry and use.
 
thx jesse!

how about some pics with other popular knives?

i'd like one, especially at that price. but i would have to immediately send it to str for a tip up mod. hmmmm.....



please keep us updated as to how you like it after some carry and use.


Its not a heavy duty knife but more of a 'gents folder' and its an excellent one to chose for 50 bucks plus or minus. Mine weighs 2.5 ounces. Thats pretty dang light weight and although you don't want to drop the knife when it has a ceramic blade for most cutting tasks it should do pretty good unless you put too much lateral stress on it and snap it. Ceramic is so hard its brittle so dropping it will surely shatter the blade or at least make it a two piece in short order. :eek:

I have no complaints and figured it would be pretty much just what I got. It does not feel as substantial as the last ceramic Boker I owned but I can certainly live with the price better. The straight forward simple lines appeal to me and I love the look of it. The clip had to go though. For one its too long, for another its in the wrong position for this country boy so I took care of that right quick. ;)

The blade is a perfect mirror. The leaves in this reflection are a bit blurred but in other angles before snapping the final pic I could see things behind me through the blade even through the camera lens and quite clearly. Its a neat knife really and certainly worth $50 and shipping. Anyway, I made a clip for it for tip up. I moved along pretty quick with it. I could have lined it up better but it works fine. I didn't like leaving the screws out for the original mount spot and my lock tends to stick some so it makes release of the blade a bit tricky requiring some excess force so I decided in the end that since the clip was not acting adequately as a over travel stop that I would just make one of those too so thats just what I did.

While I like the knife and feel its got a lot of merit I have not really used it a lot yet and note that the lock is already traveling all the way across the tang on mine. Its still sticking okay with no vertical play and I really don't care that its done that since I can easily fix it for play should that be an issue but I have to wonder if the record time it has gone from 60% to all the way is due to the extreme hardness of the Ceramic or if I just happened to get the luck of the draw so to speak. Like I said its still locked up fine. Time will tell how it behaves with some use though. Otherwise I'm quite pleased with it.

STR
 

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The wear isn't too surprising. You have a small contact area between the soft and malleable titanium and something akin to one of the hardest sharpening stones.
 
The wear isn't too surprising. You have a small contact area between the soft and malleable titanium and something akin to one of the hardest sharpening stones.

I think you're right! This is probably one of those knives that a ceramic insert or at the least a hardened stainless insert could really benefit the lock but honestly I figure that eventually I'll be making a new blade to just fit in this knife if I break this one or it gives me troubles some other way. Its not like I can mail it in to Boker now! :D

STR
 
To be honest if it was not a ceramic bladed knife I would consider it ,since I do like the overall apprearance quite well.

The idea of a ceramic bladed pocket knife just doesnt appeal to me in the least , because knowing me I will really come to love the knife then be mad as hell when the eventual break comes.

Great review Jesse B. :thumbup:

Tostig
 
I think you're right! This is probably one of those knives that a ceramic insert or at the least a hardened stainless insert could really benefit the lock but honestly I figure that eventually I'll be making a new blade to just fit in this knife if I break this one or it gives me troubles some other way. Its not like I can mail it in to Boker now! :D

STR

My lockup is still good, It just got it to the point where it flicks out easily. Since I ordered 2 the first one will be a "learning" knife on how to use and sharpen ceramic blades. As a consequence I will probably screw it up eventually. The 2nd one will most likely be a looker and rarely used.
STR, I'm sure you can sell a few of those blades when you make them up. I'll be the first to put in a pre-order.:D.
 
Does ceramic burr when you sharpen it? Ceramic isn't malleable like steel, so it would be difficult if not impossible for plastic deformation (a burr) to occur. I've seen someone sharpen a kyocera Santoku with sandpaper and a strop and it easily sliced paper and shaved after he was done.

I'm starting to really like the sound of this folder!
 
From what I've seen there is no burr formed, just ceramic dust, or residue from your sharpening media.
 
While I like the knife and feel its got a lot of merit I have not really used it a lot yet and note that the lock is already traveling all the way across the tang on mine. Its still sticking okay with no vertical play and I really don't care that its done that since I can easily fix it for play should that be an issue but I have to wonder if the record time it has gone from 60% to all the way is due to the extreme hardness of the Ceramic or if I just happened to get the luck of the draw so to speak. Like I said its still locked up fine.
STR
I also noticed the lock traveling all the way (or 95%) across the tang.
Man you're fortunate to have all this knife-making and modding equipment. Guess that comes with the territory. I only recently acquired some torx screwdrivers, 3-in-1 oil, and threadlocker. Oh, and the rapid prototyper plus steel crucible. And the tritanium machine. ;) You'll see.
 
Thanks for the review, I have been wondering about this knife ever since I first saw it. I have always wanted to play with a ceramic knife. I do not agree with you though that it is too "plain." I think the overall shape is elegant and well designed. I really like the look of it. And the price, for ceramic and titanium sounds very fair. I think I will be buying one of these soon.
 
Does ceramic burr when you sharpen it? Ceramic isn't malleable like steel, so it would be difficult if not impossible for plastic deformation (a burr) to occur. I've seen someone sharpen a kyocera Santoku with sandpaper and a strop and it easily sliced paper and shaved after he was done.

I'm starting to really like the sound of this folder!

Ceramic blades are good straight cutters. The enemy is lateral stress. Any prying or heavier jobs should be done with your steel blades but for straight cuts it will perform well. Most are used for food prep and ceramic folders seem to appeal to guys that do a lot of food prep using their folders. I tend to do this also rather than dirty a knife I'd just have to wash and stick in the dish washer so I just use my folder instead a lot of the time. The ceramic blades do well for straight cutting for paper too though and if you make up your own wrapping papers to ship things in you can do a lot of cuts with one before it ever needs attention. I also like them for cutting fiberglass tape because that stuff tests even the best blades and dulls them pretty fast.

For food prep: Cutting surfaces should be wood or plastic with ceramic blades. If you use plates, or glass cutting boards, marble or other hard surfaces it will chip the blades and unlike your steel blades getting micro fractures or chips out of a ceramic blade can be a very difficult thing to do.

STR
 
I know at least one member wanted a review of the Boker Plus Anti-MC ceramic titanium frame-lock knife, and I got mine today. So here's an early review. Take it with a grain of salt.

bacopy.jpg


I bought the knife for about $60+shipping, really because I just wanted a ceramic knife to collect and this was the first one I saw that's relatively affordable, made of quality materials (though I couldn't say what the washers are made from since they're white,) and has a proven design/locking mechanism.

Specs
- 3 1/4 inch blade
- 4 1/2 inch closed
- 2.5 oz

Design

Effective but cookie-cutter. No style beyond the circular pentagonal half of the pivot screw and the fact the blade is black. No jimping up top though I can grip the knife very tightly so it's basically unnecessary; people with large hands might have a harder time. Pocket clip is totally off-the-shelf though the knife does ride very low in the pocket if that's your sort of thing. The position of the clip cannot be altered; it's either on or off.
The knife is thin (major plus in my book) and light enough to feel comfortable yet also feels a bit insubstantial even given the strength of titanium.
The only things that sets this knife apart aesthetically, from any other knife, are the black blade and circular pentagonal-dotted end of the pivot screw. To my line of thinking, this makes it perfect for embellishment like engraving or possibly laser-marking since despite its sleekness it's also boring and uninspired.

bbcopy.jpg

(Cool out how it reflected the sunlight, huh?)

bccopyv.jpg


bdcopy.jpg


Functionality
Difficult to say. This is obviously not a camping knife, it's more of a domestic knife. The ceramic blade is as sharp as the Devil himself (pretty sharp) and should stay that way a long time without abuse. The non-reactive nature of ceramic and also titanium makes it great for cutting up fruit and some food (cut, rinse, dry), but it's too small to be considered a kitchen knife. If I knew how easily it chips and what I should or should not cut with it I'd be able to make a better comment.
But I will say: the knife works. Simple, efficient design seeking to fulfill a purpose.

Quality
The MSRP is $80 and that seems about right. You can flick it open in an instant and mine locks up really well. The way it sort of "clicks" shut is also satisfying. The titanium is smooth and more scratch-proof than anodized titanium. I still have major questions about the strength and durability of this type of ceramic of course, and the pocket clip is of low quality, but otherwise I'm a happy guy.

Value
Don't pay more than $65 maximum for this knife.


Overall, I'd give the Boker Plus Anti-MC a 10 on a scale of 0-13. This was never bought as an EDC knife but I look forward to cutting things with it.

---------------------------------------------- *edit* ----------------------------------------------

Review downgraded a half-point to 9.5/13. Main reason? A teensy bit (less than a millimeter) of lateral and vertical blade play. Why does that matter? With a "precision" instrument like this, you don't want the blade moving at all. Adjustment of the pivot screw did not really help. It seems to happen because the lock doesn't fully engage, and I mean 100% across. When holding the knife firmly in the "standard" position (4 fingers on the handle/thumb on top,) the lock engages well enough, but I often don't hold the knife that way. Minor annoyance.

I'm not really counting this against the Anti-MC, but some knives you can "play" with (get a feel for, stress them, test them, etc..) This is not really one of those knives. It's so sharp and the blade is so delicate* that you need to have a basic plan before you use the knife. ("What am I cutting? What am I cutting on?") I still see its primary utility as a portable fruit and (some) food knife, and it works great in that regard. The black blade is still sexy, though it is a fingerprint magnet.
*I wish I knew more about its strength but I can't test that without risking a chip or a break.

I feel this knife is a step in the right direction. If they could alter or reinforce the ceramic somehow to make it stronger but still retain that laser-sharp edge, more people would be buying these things. Time will tell how ceramic folders fare in the knife world...

---*edit*---
Got my first micro-chip (less than 1mm) cutting through the hardest part of a fried plantain. Guess we can cross fried plantains off the list of things which should be cut with this knife. No deduction in rating, it was very hard food.

just purchased this knife should be getting it on friday its my first ceramic blade knife i realize that its probabally not as strong as a steel blade but im still pretty geeked about getting it! besides there are many different kinds of knives, each one for a seperate use.
like you said time will tell
 
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