Hi everyone,and thanks for having me.This is my first post,so please be patient if it's not in the right place.Im old school when it comes to knives.I am really hard on knives,extremly abusive and my knives have a bad habbit of vanishing,so most of my knives are inexpensive slipjoints with Case CV knives being my favorite.I would like to know wich one you think is better between Boker Plus and Rough Rider slipjoints,and please explain why.Im not a collector,I just want knives that dont take a week to sharpen.Being able to be sharpened and resharpened quickly is what I like.As long as it will hold an edge long enough to skin a rabbit,it will suit my needs just fine.I personally dont think theres much of a difference between the two,but would like to hear from those that have had experience with both.Thanks.
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Boker Plus or Rough Rider?
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I don't own any of the bokers, but I have quite a few RRs and they have held up quite well. Some of them I have really abused and they held up well. There cheap enough if u break or lose one its easily replaced.
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I would also suggest the rough rider. I've never owned a boker slippie but have had a few RR and was very impressed with them.
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I also do not own a Boker, but I own 2 rough riders, and they are great for the price. They are no GEC or Case, but great for the price
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I just won a couple of good looking Boker + trappers over in the bay place for next to nothing.Im anxious to check them out.Ive had and used a few in the past and was quite satisfied with them.I would say about the same as Rough Rider.In fact,it wouldnt surprise me if they came from the same factory.
I've the Boker Magnum Sleekster thumb stud and a Rough Rider thumb stud. IMHO the Boker is far better knife; better steel, easier to sharpen due to blade profile, better workmanship, etc. The Rough Rider is a "adequate" knife, but I don't feel the steel is nearly as good; not the workmanship.
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I have that one,and it doesnt sharpen as easily as I like,but it's a workhorse.It's one of the few knives that doesnt have the tips of the blades broken off.
Answer is easy. Rough Rider.
I have a few Boker Plus & Boker Magnum folders. They rank strictly as "O.K.", better than no knife at all.
The vast majority of the RR knives are well made and many BF posts, as well as my own experience, shows that they stand up well to use.
roland
I have a few Boker Plus & Boker Magnum folders. They rank strictly as "O.K.", better than no knife at all.
The vast majority of the RR knives are well made and many BF posts, as well as my own experience, shows that they stand up well to use.
roland
Thats what I was thinking.I was thinking that they are so similar that I probably couldnt tell the difference if I didnt know it.From what you guys have said,I think either knife will suit me just fine.Over the years I have had a cheap knife or two that just wouldnt sharpen up to satisfy me,but I dont think either of these knives will be a problem.I bought a yellow handle case trapper today,and tomorrow I will be purchasing a Boker Plus because no one sells RR local around here,and I dont see a big enough difference to order the RR online.Thanks for all the answers.
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I'm with Roland on RR over my Bokers. The Bokers somehow don't have the fizz, kinda like a flat beer.
Rough Rider!
I really enjoy the Damascus San-Mai (two layers of soft damascus around a hard carbon steel core) Lockback by Rough Rider, my current EDC and all around workhorse. Previously I used to carry their french tickler, that was very sturdy, and a Sunfish which were both great.
I really enjoy the Damascus San-Mai (two layers of soft damascus around a hard carbon steel core) Lockback by Rough Rider, my current EDC and all around workhorse. Previously I used to carry their french tickler, that was very sturdy, and a Sunfish which were both great.
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RR has a much superior range of patterns to choose from, an important consideration.
The Bökers I have are German made carbon knives not the same as the Magnum range. They cost more than RR, although not dear, but being carbon are more to the Old School taste. Fine knives too if you want to splash more.
The Bökers I have are German made carbon knives not the same as the Magnum range. They cost more than RR, although not dear, but being carbon are more to the Old School taste. Fine knives too if you want to splash more.
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I don't have any Bokers, but I can speak for the RRs. I started carrying an RR stockman about nine months ago, just an inexpensive experiment to see how bad the Chinese junk was.
I'm still carrying it. I've never been more surprised. The RR stockman is well made, good looking, details are good. It sharpens up with three or four swipes on a knife steel, and has good snap.
I'll be able to pass my more expensive knives down to my sons, 'cause they're not going to wear out any time in the near future. I now carry the RR every day. I gave half a dozen RRs for Christmas this year, all the recipients seemed pleased.
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I got my Bokers in and although im happy with them(for the price paid)they have some flaws that Rough Riders probably wouldnt.The double lockback trapper is a cool idea.And the knife functions well.But one scale has lifted and that is kind of disappointing on a new knife no matter the price.The yellow is very nice,but opening and closing the blades you can feel a bit of roughness i may or may not be able to clean out.Both knives are perfectly good and quite sharp and usable.And for less than 10 bucks each,i feel i got more than my moneys worth.I buy them to check out patterns and to give away to not so discriminating knifers like many of us and they are fine for that.Given this pair as examples i would say Rough Rider is generally a cut above for the price range.
I have been doing my homework since I bought the boker plus.RR sells the EXACT same knife under their name,I mean it is the same knife,only difference being that the Boker Plus is stamped 440c.I think all of these knives,Boker Plus,Steel Warrior,Rough Rider and kissing crane are the same with quality,it's hit or miss,but I give the edge to Boker Plus for using 440c where the others use stainless or 440a.
Sorry to resurrect the "zombie" thread. Don't know if it is bad form, if I should have started a new thread. Inform me.
Anyways, this thread speaks to a question I have.
I recently purchased a Rough Rider Barlow and, like everyone else, I love it. Fit, finish, etc. are all great. Knife steel (and heat treat) is the most important thing to me though.
After sharpening the Rough Rider and using it a bit the jury is still out on the steel but it certainly is at the very least adequate and worth the money I paid.
I actually much prefer carbon steel.
Looking at what I've read in the thread above I would vote for the Boker knives, figuring that I would sacrifice fit and finish for better steel.
Here's my question.
Been looking at Kissing Crane Barlows (I'm liking Barlows now) and on the A.G. Russell website it talks of at least some Kissing Crane knives being 440A like Rough Rider.
So is the Kissing Crane 440A comparable to Rough Rider? Better? Worse?
How about starting a thread listing the steels in mid range knives (or all knife brands) and the perceived quality of it heat treat, etc.)?
Anyways, this thread speaks to a question I have.
I recently purchased a Rough Rider Barlow and, like everyone else, I love it. Fit, finish, etc. are all great. Knife steel (and heat treat) is the most important thing to me though.
After sharpening the Rough Rider and using it a bit the jury is still out on the steel but it certainly is at the very least adequate and worth the money I paid.
I actually much prefer carbon steel.
Looking at what I've read in the thread above I would vote for the Boker knives, figuring that I would sacrifice fit and finish for better steel.
Here's my question.
Been looking at Kissing Crane Barlows (I'm liking Barlows now) and on the A.G. Russell website it talks of at least some Kissing Crane knives being 440A like Rough Rider.
So is the Kissing Crane 440A comparable to Rough Rider? Better? Worse?
How about starting a thread listing the steels in mid range knives (or all knife brands) and the perceived quality of it heat treat, etc.)?
I don't think the steel types are known in any of these. Take what's marked on the knife as to steel type with a grain of salt. It could be more marketing than fact. And as you say, the heat treat is more important than steel type.
What's needed is a well thought out "Cut Off", i.e. a cutting contest using at least a few knives of each of these offshore brands. Numerous different cutting tests. Then repeat the whole thing except with all new in box knives, to see if first results can be duplicated.
roland
What's needed is a well thought out "Cut Off", i.e. a cutting contest using at least a few knives of each of these offshore brands. Numerous different cutting tests. Then repeat the whole thing except with all new in box knives, to see if first results can be duplicated.
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I agree with Roland.
I'd say starting the new thread over in the general knife forum might be a good idea.
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