Bone handle material

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I'm thinking of using a piece of horse bone that I've had for years as a knife handle. It's very dense, hard and has only a small nerve hole down the middle, no marrow at all. It's from the foreleg just above the hoof I think, so it's strong. Question: It seems very oily or waxy. I doubt if epoxy will stick to it. Does anyone know if it needs any special treatment or can I use it as-is? It will be a stick tang, so I'm not relying on epoxy for anything other than gap-filler in this case.
 
Brian I would boil the grease out of it if it were me. With the apperance as it is it's probably got oil or grease embedded in the bone.
Do it outside in an old bucket or something and if you see any oil floating on top skim it off before removeing the bone when you're through.
 
crooked knife said:
Would boiling the bone make it more brittle or lessen its strength significantly?
It shouldn't, after it dries it should still be the same. Ever cook a hambone in beans? Same difference only this bone is cured.;)
 
I was thinkin' that simmering it for a while might get some of the grease out. Now my question, Yvsa, is whether or not to toss some beans and jalepenos in? Given thyat the bone is over 30 years old, my guess is NOT.
:D
Thaynks,
 
Part speculation/part experience, worth what it costs you:

Bone is more brittle than horn, may have to do with the fibrous growth of horn as opposed to ? celluar growth of bone. Dunno.

Shouldn't be an issue unless you have a lot of shocks/impacts/hits, I'd think.
If you are batoning the bejezus out of something, you might want to reconsider.

I've fractured bone while attempting to slightly force a tang into it. Horn seems to compress, and truly, the openings in the horn I've tried have always been bigger and filled with the adhesive or shim material which compresses.

As always, YMMV.

Kis
 
Thanks,Yvsa, Kis, et al,
The foreleg is a very dense bone and has probably been used for knife, sword, and tool handles for eons. It's a perfectly adaptable material. My only question was about the saturated grease/oil. I think Yvsa answered it.
 
I can't recall the particular source,

but I recall reading someone saying that they used
a white gas soak to remove grease from bone.

Usual cautions
& outdoors, away from anything & everything
gas explodes, etc, etc

might try a new chew-bone from pet store first

Can't see the gas harming the bone

Citrus solvent or turpentine spirits might work as well--
maybe a little slower, but safer.


Throw it in with the laundry?
:rolleyes:
 
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"The problem is that there are several types of lipid compounds in bones, some of which oxidize readily and are readily removed, others of which are part of the bone's structural integrity and should not be removed. Soaks in caustic chemical solutions destroy both of these groups and yield a white, greaseless, and often brittle or fragile bone."
from:
http://biodiversity.uno.edu/~gophtax/_gophtax.96/1708.html

also:
http://www.ipa.min-cultura.pt/cipa/zooarqueologia/en/Bibliography/Simon/2003/preparing-skeletons.pdf

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