Bowie build questions

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I started trying to make knives out of 1095 1/8 inch stock and realized after the first couple of heat treating sessions that 1095 is not a good beginner steel for someone with limited tools. I've since read the counts standard reply to new knife makers, made a few small hunting knives out of 1/8 inch 1084 quenched in canola and they turned out pretty decent. I'd like to try pushing my limits and building a fighting Bowie. I'm thinking 1084, 1/4 or 5/16s with a flat grind and distal taper starting at the swedge and maybe sharpening the swedge. Between 13 and 15 inches long, Something akin to the Laredo or Natchez Bowies by cold steel but a bit shorter.
A few questions:
Full or hidden tang?
Will the thickness of the metal affect my current heat treating method any?
And what is the best method for doing a flat grind and a distal taper when shaping the blade?
I don't have a 2x72 grinder but I have a 2x42.
Also would it be better to grind then heat treat or heat treat then grind.
Also, any other tips or tricks anyone wants to share would be more than appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Tang style just depends on the look you're after, both are good.
3/16 makes a nice flickable bowie.

Be sure and post pics
 
Consider the Joe Musso Bowie as a big Bowie about 19" overall length and it has a 1/4" blade. Like Forrest I'd think 3/16" should be plenty thick for the blade. I'd consider profiling the blade with some work on the bevel before HT'ing. For a Bowie I wouldn't worry so much about a distal taper.

Good luck and have fun building - yes 1084/1080 is a good choice.
 
I agree with what's been posted. If you want some inspiration on crazy fighting bowies, check out Nick Wheeler's work. It's ridiculous.

As far as handles go, depends on the handle style. If you're going for a "coffin" style grip, i'd go full tang. If you're going with the flared sculpted type, i'd go hidden tang with a single pin.
 
Some basic Bowie advice for your first one:
1) Most folks greatly overbuild their first Bowie. Avoid making it a 2-pound steel club. 3/16" is plenty thick. Lighter is faster.
Gigantic Bowies with 15" blades may look cool on the wall but are pretty much useless otherwise.
For your experience and tool availability, I would suggest a more modest 8-10" blade and 4.5" handle.

2) Go slow. Take a little off at a time in shaping the profile. You can't put the steel back once cut/ground away. Shape things a bit at a time. Leave the final clip shape for last.

3) The tang style that looks best is usually a full tang. The coffin handle is the classic. It looks good with just two or three mosaic pins or the classic perimeter rows of many thin pins. Hidden tang works, too, but requires more precise fitting, especially if you have a curved tang. A hidden tang is best looking on a Bowie with a finial nut or acorn nut for takedown.

4) Start simple. Fullers and brass backs are great but add a lot to the complexity of the build. Done right they look good. Done wrong, or even mediocre, they can ruin the look of the knife.

5) Pay attention to the ricasso drop and length. Too much length or a drop that is out of proportion can really make the blade look "off".

6) Keep the guard simple and in proportion. Many are far too large and wide.

7) The Bowie is the only knife that I actually like the "Brut-de-Forge look on. Leaving the upper bevels as forged has a rustic look that fits a Bowie. If doing stock removal, once the profile is done and shaped you can anneal the blade and then work the upper bevels with a ball pein hammer texturing hammer. Take a small to medium size ball pein hammer and grind the ball to a cone ending in a 1/4" to 1/2" hemispherical shape (depending on the size divots desired). Sand to 400 grit and polish shiny on the buffer. This tool will leave perfect divots. Go over the area many times to get an even pattern. You can make a set of these with faces from 1/8" to 1/2" for texturing all sorts of things. Sometimes I start with a larger one to get a rough coverage and then go over it with a smaller pein.
A simpler method is to leave the upper bevels at 100-220 grit and finish the lower bevels to 800-1000 grit. Don't do much on the upper bevels beyond the initial shaping and finish the lower bevels to the desired grit. Go back over the upper bevel with a hard backed 100-220 grit paper after the lower bevels are done. Even better is to use a coarse EDM stone on the upper bevels. Once the HT is done and the blade cleaned up, etch in FC and then clean up the lower bevels to make them bright. Note - It is a good idea to tape off the finished areas while doing the coarser work on the upper bevels to avoid scratches.

8) The sheath is an important part of a Bowie. Research them and spend your time making a well fitted sheath. If that isn't your skill set, find someone who does leather sheaths and holsters to do it for you. An old coin or concho is a nice feature on the sheath.

Biggest Tip - Make the proposed blade template in 1/4" wood first. Start with just the profile. Look it over and see if the silhouette looks right. Then add the bevels. Make several in different shapes if needed to get what looks best before drawing on the steel and cutting out.
 
If you're going to do a heat treatment using a magnet and forge, make sure you normalize first. Check out Larrin Thomas' video at Knife Steel Nerds on the process. I am at work so maybe someone can find and post the link for you.
 
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If you're going to do a heat treatment using a magnet and forge, make sure you normalize first. Check out Larrin Thomas' video at Knife Steel Nerds on the process. I am at work so maybe someone can find and post the link for you.
 
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