Boy's Knives

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Back in the day, as today, there were many price points in the pocket cutlery market. The bottom tier were very cheap but inexpensive "boy's knives". Many were imported, often they had stamped metal covers with bolsters coformed and polished, the center handle laqured to resemble stagged bone on more expensive knives. And they were cheap. But they were also fairly well made and if cared for, could last a young boy for quite some time before being broken or, more likely, lost or traded. Prices ranged from five cents to almost a quarter. Which in 1910 was still an considerable sum for a youngster. $0.05 then equals $1.21 in today's dollars.

I've always liked these knives. Some have interesting designs mimicking traditional men's patterns, and some have text molded in giving the knife a "title", an identification. Being hollow metal construction, many of them have gotten smashed flat over the years and very few retain any sign of paint. I've mostly seen these made in Germany for import to the U.S. I have a few, but not nearly a complete collection of them. Does anyone have one or more to show?

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- Christian
 
I have an old boy scout knife of my Dad's that sounds like it fits that description. Its pretty locked up but I don't want to clean it up and ruin the patina, not that I'd ever sell it anyway. I'll post a pic in a minute.
 
Didn't see those pictures when I posted my previous comment. This is definitely one of those. Its the two bladed "Boy's Favorite" in case the handle is hard to read. The blade says United Cutleryworks, Germany on it so I'm assuming its the same United Cutlery as today.
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Another Wadsworth, this one with some paint remaining.
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Didn't see those pictures when I posted my previous comment. This is definitely one of those. Its the two bladed "Boy's Favorite" in case the handle is hard to read. The blade says United Cutleryworks, Germany on it so I'm assuming its the same United Cutlery as today.

No, actually according to my files, it was yet another A. Kastor & Bros. import mark, like the knives above.

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Hey Codger these are great to see in almost person and the original ads as well. Thanks for showing them! I was just thinking bout these the other night.
 
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Most collectors and new knife enthusiasts and users ignore them and find them uninteresting because of their cheap materials and seemingly low level of craftsmanship. The slightly later Imperials and Colonials with their painted or thin cell wrapped matal handles as well. But I enjoy exploring and collecting even the low end stuff like this. Not everyone could afford a higher end bone or higher still mpother of pearl knife back then. But they were made well enough to serve a purpose. The plain ground blades were ground from the same steel and heat treated the same, and most likely assembled by the same cutlers in Ohligs Solengin, Germany.

You can call me Michael
 
You're exactly right Michael! The very reason I dedicated a couple years of my life to collecting the shell wrapped knives back in 2006 to 2008. You could still get them for 3 to 5 bucks back then. Now you're lucky if you can buy one for 10 bucks online. I guess I had something to do with that. I was able to find a few at flea markets too but now they all want way too much for them. I wish I could find some of these old Boys knives but they're just not out there much these days. Most were bought and as you said, lost and or abused and battered. I gotta say your DIME KNIFE is my favorite!:thumb up:

You can call me Perry
 
Adolph Kastor & Brothers was one of the main importers of this type knife, but you have to know all 300+ of their marks to weed through everything to find them online. I have a couple more, including the flag the one above, that I don't have pictures of right now. I think "Our Boy" is another one.

Gumball machine and crackerjack knives are neat too. I have a few of those as well.
 
What a great thread. When I was young my family traveled all over the country. I remember seeing knives like these in every tourist trap and every campground general store we visited. I'm kind of ashamed at how much begging I did to get my parents to buy them for me.:o
 
Somebody has a "BILLY BARLOW" on ebay right now and they're asking $1,900.00 for it!
 
By 1940, the German pressed metal knives for boys had been replaced with domestic thin cell wrapped knives of the same patterns.

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Somebody has a "BILLY BARLOW" on ebay right now and they're asking $1,900.00 for it!

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Try as I might I cannot make out the tang marking. Odds are that it is a mate to the ones posted earlier.
 
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Here is another branding, I.K. Co. U.S.A. that would be Imperial Knife Co. Not my knife, a web find picture.

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I cannot be certain, but I believe this style of Imperial boy's knife predates their acquisition of the Sthil - Elosi patents of 1936 which was for crimped on covers wrapped in cell. That makes it contemporary with the previous imported Kastor knives shown. And gives at least one more possible maker for the preceeding Billy Barlow knife.
 
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