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A friend approached me with this offer and said that I could share it with the people on this forum.
The proposition I have is this. I originally had hopes of bringing the
Hammer out to the place I'm living in Pennsylvania - it's still out in
Illinois - and setting it up there. However, it's looking more and more
Like I'm going to have to move back to NY City and I just don't have any
Place to store this monster. As such, I'm looking to find it a good
Home until the time comes where I can finally get my own shop setup and
The hammer sitting pretty - a day that is not likely to come for at
Least a few years now. Given all this, and my appreciation of the guys
In NECKA, I thought I would offer it up to someone, or a group of
Someone’s, in the organization who might be able to take care of it for
Me, while using it in their own work.
The terms of the deal would go something like this:
1. I am NOT SELLING the hammer. I am loaning it to the person who will
Take it for their work in exchange for their help in getting it back
East and keeping it in working order while they use it.
2. Given that this thing is a BEAST - it weighs close to 10,000 lbs! -
I'm going to need some help getting it out here. The ideal person to
Take on this hammer has a rollback truck (or access to one) that could
haul it back. Short of that, the taker and I would have to work out
Some deal whereby we work together and with the guy I bought the hammer
From in order to get it back here. That means loading it on a truck out
There - which is not such a big deal b/c the guy I bought it from works
At a lime stone quarry and has a crane that can lift it into an
Open-backed truck, then hauling it back here and unloading it. This is
No small feet, but the guy I bought it from managed to move it on a car
Trailer with the help of some people and a tractor to take it out of the
trailer. As such, I think this is doable and I'll work with the
Taker(s) on figuring out what this will cost to do and how to split up
The costs of doing it (I'd likely expect them to pay at least some part
Of the cost unless, in the unlikely case, it's really small.)
3. The hammer needs to be kept in-doors. A garage, shed or barn is
Fine, but I just don't want it outside rusting away to nothing. I've
Spoken to a guy who restores hammers like this and he told me that
Ideally, it should be setup on its own, independent concrete slab in
Order to absorb some of the shock, but I'm willing to forego that and
Will leave it to the lucky taker to figure out how to set it up.
4. I'm willing to repay the costs of any reasonable repairs / rebuild
On the hammer. Though it is supposedly in working order, it will
Probably need at least some help to make run extra smooth? I've talked
To guys who can get/make rebuild parts for this hammer and who can make
Dyes as well.
5. Given the difficulty and expense likely to be incurred, I'm willing
To GUARANTEE that whomever takes the hammer can use it for free for a
Minimum of three years, subject only to their coordinating with me if I
Need to use it along the way for a couple of days or what not.
Depending on how things go with my job and house and so on, it's
Entirely possible (if not likely) that the person could still be using
This hammer 10 years from now.
6. Note that the hammer runs on 3-phase power, so whomever takes it will
Have to have access to 3-phase for it to be of any use.
7. I would like the hammer to be in the Northeast - basically to me that
Means just about anywhere from Delaware to Maine and from Pennsylvania
East.
OK, I listed all that stuff out b/c I want to be clear on what the pain
Points are on this thing. Now, on the upside, I'd also mention that
Everything I've read about this hammer and everyone I've talked to has
Told me the same thing - basically, that this is the hammer to have.
From banging out Damascus billets to forging points, this baby is
Supposedly the absolute best hammer out there. Guys I've talked to said
that they would take this over any hydraulic press, upright hammer, etc.
Any day and that it even makes a lot of the older, heavy-duty Nazel's
and Beaudries look like sissies. One guy whom I talked to who has
Restored a bunch of these Bradley helves told me that I would likely
Take my Little Giant and want to sell it for scrap after I got this in
My shop.
PS: The person who is making this offer is a Lawyer.
The proposition I have is this. I originally had hopes of bringing the
Hammer out to the place I'm living in Pennsylvania - it's still out in
Illinois - and setting it up there. However, it's looking more and more
Like I'm going to have to move back to NY City and I just don't have any
Place to store this monster. As such, I'm looking to find it a good
Home until the time comes where I can finally get my own shop setup and
The hammer sitting pretty - a day that is not likely to come for at
Least a few years now. Given all this, and my appreciation of the guys
In NECKA, I thought I would offer it up to someone, or a group of
Someone’s, in the organization who might be able to take care of it for
Me, while using it in their own work.
The terms of the deal would go something like this:
1. I am NOT SELLING the hammer. I am loaning it to the person who will
Take it for their work in exchange for their help in getting it back
East and keeping it in working order while they use it.
2. Given that this thing is a BEAST - it weighs close to 10,000 lbs! -
I'm going to need some help getting it out here. The ideal person to
Take on this hammer has a rollback truck (or access to one) that could
haul it back. Short of that, the taker and I would have to work out
Some deal whereby we work together and with the guy I bought the hammer
From in order to get it back here. That means loading it on a truck out
There - which is not such a big deal b/c the guy I bought it from works
At a lime stone quarry and has a crane that can lift it into an
Open-backed truck, then hauling it back here and unloading it. This is
No small feet, but the guy I bought it from managed to move it on a car
Trailer with the help of some people and a tractor to take it out of the
trailer. As such, I think this is doable and I'll work with the
Taker(s) on figuring out what this will cost to do and how to split up
The costs of doing it (I'd likely expect them to pay at least some part
Of the cost unless, in the unlikely case, it's really small.)
3. The hammer needs to be kept in-doors. A garage, shed or barn is
Fine, but I just don't want it outside rusting away to nothing. I've
Spoken to a guy who restores hammers like this and he told me that
Ideally, it should be setup on its own, independent concrete slab in
Order to absorb some of the shock, but I'm willing to forego that and
Will leave it to the lucky taker to figure out how to set it up.
4. I'm willing to repay the costs of any reasonable repairs / rebuild
On the hammer. Though it is supposedly in working order, it will
Probably need at least some help to make run extra smooth? I've talked
To guys who can get/make rebuild parts for this hammer and who can make
Dyes as well.
5. Given the difficulty and expense likely to be incurred, I'm willing
To GUARANTEE that whomever takes the hammer can use it for free for a
Minimum of three years, subject only to their coordinating with me if I
Need to use it along the way for a couple of days or what not.
Depending on how things go with my job and house and so on, it's
Entirely possible (if not likely) that the person could still be using
This hammer 10 years from now.
6. Note that the hammer runs on 3-phase power, so whomever takes it will
Have to have access to 3-phase for it to be of any use.
7. I would like the hammer to be in the Northeast - basically to me that
Means just about anywhere from Delaware to Maine and from Pennsylvania
East.
OK, I listed all that stuff out b/c I want to be clear on what the pain
Points are on this thing. Now, on the upside, I'd also mention that
Everything I've read about this hammer and everyone I've talked to has
Told me the same thing - basically, that this is the hammer to have.
From banging out Damascus billets to forging points, this baby is
Supposedly the absolute best hammer out there. Guys I've talked to said
that they would take this over any hydraulic press, upright hammer, etc.
Any day and that it even makes a lot of the older, heavy-duty Nazel's
and Beaudries look like sissies. One guy whom I talked to who has
Restored a bunch of these Bradley helves told me that I would likely
Take my Little Giant and want to sell it for scrap after I got this in
My shop.
PS: The person who is making this offer is a Lawyer.
) Jeff's right though, I really wouldn't want to invest time into something, for the benefit of someone else. However, you'd have to really consider the 3+ years of free service you'd get from the hammer (hoping that it wouldn't cost much to get going). Anyway, I'm glad it's up there so I don't have to worry about it. I don't need the hammer, but it's so neat looking, and has some moving parts, and is greasy, what more could you want?