Branching out a bit: Southern Grind Spider Monkey & Grayman Dua

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A guy at a knife shop that I frequently visit said I should diversify my knife collection a bit. I feel like I've got a pretty eclectic gathering but the bulk of it is Chris Reeve, Benchmade, Zero Tolerance, and Spyderco. There are several examples from other brands in there too (Brous, Lionsteel, Gerber, Buck, and Case to name some) but I decided to try a couple others to see what I was missing. Of course, he was trying to talk me into buying a Strider which they are about to start stocking but I don't have any interest in those. Instead I visited our friendly Exchange and found a couple of knives that fit the bill: a Grayman Dua and a Southern Grind Spider Monkey. I'd never owned or even handled an example from either company. So far the experience has yielded mixed results.



Grayman Dua:
This one was a surprise hit. I had considered them from time to time but remained hesitant to try one based on varied reports of quality with Grayman stuff. One came up for sale locally so I got to check it out in person before buying. After seeing it in person I knew I wanted it. It's a very well-made knife, worth more than the retail price in my opinion if compared to Chris Reeve stuff or even some of the Spyderco and Benchmade options. For instance, the Benchmade Proxy costs the same amount and I think the Dua is a much better knife for the money. I have never carried my Proxy since buying it. The Dua's action is the best of any of my knives. It has a pivot bushing like a Sebenza but flies open like it has a ball bearing pivot. It also has rock-solid lockup. Don't get me wrong, I love my Sebenzas, but it's nice to have a pivot bushing without a sluggish deployment. This one has been on me constantly since I got it and I don't so that ending any time soon.

I did a video review of it. The lock stick I mentioned in the video has all but disappeared. When it does happen it's very light.
[video=youtube;LpyMc-NUEEA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LpyMc-NUEEA[/video]

Southern Grind Spider Monkey Copper:
This one isn't great so far. It has a ton of potential as a favorite EDC knife for me. I love its size and blade shape. The handle fits my hand perfectly (without the pocket clip). I just like handling the knife because the copper scales are unique. However, there are a few negatives for me. I'm not nuts about the pocket clip. It kills the ergonomics for me and creates a bad hot spot. That's fine; I remove the pocket clips from all my Chris Reeve knives for the same reason. The problem is that one of the pocket clip screws is also a screw for the rear pillar. Having that screw there without the clip looks goofy. The clip is also too stiff. I found it difficult to get it over the thick edge of my camo utility pants. The bigger issue I'm having is blade play. There is some vertical play when the knife if locked open. After it's closed and the detent is engaged you can push on the top of the blade and it kind of clicks down into the handle more. The blade also moves around a lot when it's partially open. It just seems like either the pivot screw is moving around in the handle or the blade is moving too much around the pivot (like the blade's pivot hole is too big). I'm going to send it back to Southern Grind. I was going to try to live with it but can't at this price point. Hopefully they can get it worked out because I can see my self really enjoying this knife.

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I snapped a photo to show the clip side without the clip installed...a bit goofy with that milled area for the clip and the lone torx fastener for the pillar. However, a Benchmade split arrow clip fits and it is much better ergonomically. The hotspot compared to the factory clip is greatly reduced. The factory clip looks better though. The larger Benchmade clip shown on the top 940-2 would also fit but it sticks up higher and creates a hot spot as well. I prefer the split arrow clip. An Emerson clip should also fit.

Also, the Benchmade clip sticks up about an 1/8" from the handle where it should contact to secure the knife to the pocket. You would need to bend the clip so it contacts the handle to secure the knife. I will likely keep it clipless for now and carry it in a sheath. I just got a Raine #4 today and the Spider Monkey fits nicely in there. It also works for my Chris Reeve knives (large and small) pretty nicely which was my primary reason for getting it.

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A very reasonable, thoughtful review with some excellent photos! Thanks for sharing. I also really like your all-copper-finish and all-titanium-finish accoutrement pairings. They look great!

I can't comment on the Southern Grind (other than to say that I've never seen one that looked ugly), as I haven't even held an example of that brand yet. Based on what I read of the company and its owner, though, I suspect you'll be taken care of with your return.

I wholeheartedly agree about Grayman. The company's folders are quite under-appreciated, surprisingly so in a time dominated by infatuation with bulky, hefty, "hard-use" folders such as Medfords and their ilk.

-Steve

P.S. - I think I know what dealer you're frequenting, but if you get a chance, please post a Visitor Message letting me know the name of the knife store. I'm always on the lookout for new local knife shops!
 
A very reasonable, thoughtful review with some excellent photos! Thanks for sharing. I also really like your all-copper-finish and all-titanium-finish accoutrement pairings. They look great!

I can't comment on the Southern Grind (other than to say that I've never seen one that looked ugly), as I haven't even held an example of that brand yet. Based on what I read of the company and its owner, though, I suspect you'll be taken care of with your return.

I wholeheartedly agree about Grayman. The company's folders are quite under-appreciated, surprisingly so in a time dominated by infatuation with bulky, hefty, "hard-use" folders such as Medfords and their ilk.

-Steve

P.S. - I think I know what dealer you're frequenting, but if you get a chance, please post a Visitor Message letting me know the name of the knife store. I'm always on the lookout for new local knife shops!

It's Full Metal Jacket in Alexandria. They have a pretty good selection of Benchmades and keep a few ZTs in stock. I hit the new Cabela's in Gainesville last weekend too. I've been missing Cabela's since I moved here from Nebraska a few years ago.They have a lot of knives in stock there from Benchmade, ZT, and others. I finally got to handle their exclusive 940-1601. I really want one now for my 940 collection but I just don't know if I can do $250 on it. If it was $200...
 
Ah, I thought you were talking about Matt D Tactical in Alexandria. I've run into Matt at several shows and he's always had a great selection. I think he still maintains a physical store. Full Metal Jacket is not one I'm familiar with, so thanks!

I haven't seen the new Cabela's, but I've been to plenty of others. I'm always pleasantly surprised by the variety of knives they stock. They're an excellent resource for getting hands-on, and they do offer the occasional exclusive, like the Benchmade you're eyeing.

-Steve
 
I don’t carry my Spider Monkey at this time but I did pull it out for a photo this weekend. This copper version is a beautiful knife.

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I picked up a Bad and a Spider monkey recently (my first SG's) and I'm impressed with the fit and finish and overall quality of these knives.
The pocket clips although do need some tweaking to operate correctly.
I found that since they are short and not very flexible due to that fact they need to have a noticeable gap between the clip and scale.
And because they are stiff, pocket retention is still better than most even with the gap.
I like the unique aesthetics of the clips on these and personally wouldn't change them.
And I totally dig the Sandvik on the Bad Monkey.
I had some trepidation about it from some misguided posters but when I discovered a few makers (including Kevin Wilkins) giving it rave reviews I had to give it a try.
Sorry for gushing on your thread, but hopefully it will lend some insight.
Here's the pair.
If you need a shot of the "proper" clip gap I've found with Levi's pockets let me know.
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I picked up a Bad and a Spider monkey recently (my first SG's) and I'm impressed with the fit and finish and overall quality of these knives.

I’m glad to hear this. I also wanted to try something new, so I ordered a Spider Monkey last week.
 
photoman12001 photoman12001 Thanks for the review and nice pics (appropriate username :)). I would also like to add that based on personal experience that Grayman has excellent customer service.
 
I’m glad to hear this. I also wanted to try something new, so I ordered a Spider Monkey last week.
Honestly I like the Spider Monkey just a bit more.
Almost a mirror image.of the Bad Monkey but the Bad Monkey is just a hair too big for a comfortable pocket carry.
It's the handle height on the butt of the knife (think Strider).
A 3.5" Monkey would be ideal.
 
I enjoyed my Southern Grind Spider Monkey before I sold it. I can’t remember exactly how long I EDCed it but I think a few months. The pocket clip came absurdly tight. I clipped it on to a slightly thick duct tape roll for a few days before it loosened up enough to fit on my jean pocket. It was a good knife.
 
I not only really like my 2 folders but I have a jackal and jackal pup fixed blades from them too and like buying from them since the proceeds go to funding Zachs camp for wayward kids called southern ground.
 
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