Recommendation? Brands that Can Be Repeatedly Maintenanced

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I'm hunting for a new knife. I won't get into all of my preferences, here, but one that is really important to me is ease of disassembly, ease of reassembly, and parts that will last for years through this without causing the action and lock up to change or degrade.

To my knowledge, only CRK makes knives this way. Unfortunately, after years of Sebenza use, (and I can attest that it does and will do what I stated for many, many years without change) I had to admit that I just don't like the ergos. The back of the handle flares where it needs to curve and digs my hand during use. I end up with my Spyderco when I want to cut because it just feels way better.

Are there other options out there?

P.S. I know something changed with the management at CRK, but I missed the whole thing. If somebody could maybe post some links to the threads I need to read or weigh in on whether or not I need to be concerned about the quality slipping, that would be appreciated.
 
Can't go wrong with Hinderer For ease of maintenance. Yeah the pivot is proprietary, but it's easy to maintain with the proper simple tools, either bought or made.
 
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On the real though my Emersons have come apart and gone back together many times without any issues. It really changes my feeling for a knife if it uses screws that are soft and strip out. Or theeading screws directly into titanium and then the threads get damaged.

I recently bought a Boker Exskelibur I framelock and it is such a sleek beautiful and functional knife. The fact it uses hardware that I worry about damaging really kills the vibe on what could otherwise be a perfect knife.
 
What about the CRK Inkosi or even the (now discontinued) Ti-Lock?
They both have different ergos than the 21. The reason I offer the Inkosi and Ti-Lock is because you just stated CRK as a whole, but I didn't know if you meant a model in particular.
 
Can't go wrong with Hinderer For ease of maintenance. Yeah the pivot is proprietary, but it's easy to maintain with the proper simple tools, either bought or made.
Hinderer is one I was looking at. They seem very sturdy. The Halftrack and MP1 are both attractive, to me. My only issue is the obnoxious price hike for full Ti scales. This may be the direction I go.

What about the CRK Inkosi or even the (now discontinued) Ti-Lock?
They both have different ergos than the 21. The reason I offer the Inkosi and Ti-Lock is because you just stated CRK as a whole, but I didn't know if you meant a model in particular.
I want a TiLock, for sure, but I may be too late. As for the Inkosi, the handle still has that flair at the rear that digs my hand. Umnumzaan is too large.
 
The Inkosi small feels very different in the hand than the small 21. The large inkosi feels very much like a large 21 in my hand. The only noticeable dofference being the little bit of extra thickness and the double finger grooves/choils.

The small inkosi is smaller than the small 21 but the large inkosi seems to be the same size as the large 21. (Other than thickness)

If you aren't liking the ergos of the sebbie and by extension the inkosi perhaps you should try an Umnumzaan. The handle doesn't flare out at the butt of the zaan. Personally I like knives with handles that offer a neutral grip position, rather than are ergonomically designed so one position is the "correct" way to hold the knife.

Edit: woops was typing my message before your message about the zaan being too big was posted. Perhaps you could look at brands like the Greyman Satu or Three Sosters Forge Beast?
 
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The red arrow indicates where the handle caused me discomfort. I have never tried a small 21/Inkosi, however, so that might not be an issue. I still worry too much to purchase.

Image borrowed from www.knifecenter.com
 
Just found out that Hinderer and his $500 production folders all use teflon washers. That goes entirely against what I'm looking for. The washers need to be PB. I have disassembled knives and had so many teflon washers bend, shred, pinch and whatever else. No thanks.
 
Not familiar with the whole management thing but I own a few sebenza 21s and a Mnandi from 2015 - 2017 the earliest I believe was made this last may - april so fairly recently, knives are perfect.

My only complaint has nothing to do with management in the sense I can't stand the damascus mnandi's because of the visible polish on the blade but I'm going off track and as far as I understand it that's been ongoing for awhile.
 
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The red arrow indicates where the handle caused me discomfort. I have never tried a small 21/Inkosi, however, so that might not be an issue. I still worry too much to purchase.

Image borrowed from www.knifecenter.com
I had the same problem with my lrg Insingo. I sanded that part round. It helps a lot but still not as comfortable as I'd like. I carry my Brous Bionic XL far more often, perfect ergos for my hand! Another good one is Spyderco GB, I modded mine too but it's great right out of the box.
 
Man, it's looking like I may have to track down a Ti-Lock or see if the Inkosi line feels a little better.

Are all Hinderers really on Teflon washers?
 
Hey man. I've had my ZT 0909 apart quite a few times. It is very basic, and has few parts. Everything is heavy duty, and should last a long time. Maybe the 0909 is worth a look. :thumbsup:
Edit: I just noticed that you like the PB washers. The 0909 runs on bearings. I was skeptical at first, but after using it pretty hard they are holding up great. Also....my 0909 was run over by a 20 yard dumpster, and it suffered no physical damage.
 
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Just curious, why do you need to take apart your knives so often?

I used to be the same way, but eventually realized it was unnecessary. Some of the knives I've carried most have never been taken apart.

You'd be amazed by what a flush with some good ol' naphtha does for cleaning.
 
Man, it's looking like I may have to track down a Ti-Lock or see if the Inkosi line feels a little better.

Are all Hinderers really on Teflon washers?
Out of the factory yes, but PB washers are readily available, cheap, and easy to change. Many, including myself, have done it. Some say they notice no difference but others say they do. I like the action better myself on PB washers.
Edit: I never had a problem nor did I dislike the teflons, rather bought and changed to PB just to see if I liked it better or noticed a difference. Nothing wrong with teflon though.
Les George midtechs are also super easy to disassemble and maintain (VECP and Talos especially).
 
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in my opinion you're doing yourself a huge disservice overlooking Hinderer based on the type of washers they utilize. I know it's popular around here to hate on Teflon but in the big boy world; people who use their knives, Ive never heard anyone complaining about washers of any kind. Same goes for steel.

1. They're easy to replace if destroyed
2. The knife will continue to work fine with bent, partially torn edges.
3. They're smooth as silk
4. Can be changed for PB

Too many great qualities especially with the xm-18 platform that far outweigh any potential negatives associated with washers.
 
I do not seek to derail the thread into a discussion about whether or not one needs to disassemble a folder regularly - unless, of course, you like to but of all the many folders I have and have owned throughout decades of doing just about everything and anything one can do with a knife - my oldest Buck 110 has field dressed and skinned more deer, cleaned more fish and been fat/blood deep in a variety of critters more times than I can count. I've also had it packed with grease, sand, dirt and what have you. A very thorough flushing with hot water (and soap and/or Dawn) followed by some compressed air followed by WD-40 then lubed and wiped down was my normal routine. Not until I retired that knife for sentimental reasons and sent it Back to Buck for a freshening up was it ever apart. That knife served me very, very well.
 
I agree what b&w's said, you could definitely change out the teflon for phosphor bronze washers. From what I hear it actually makes them flip a lot smoother as well. For a hard working, easily disassembled knife Hinderer is pretty high on that list.
 
If you prefer the comfort of Spyderco, then by all means continue to use and maintain a Spyderco. Why look elsewhere? Most of their models require only one or two Torx sizes. Simple. Easy.
 
Just curious, why do you need to take apart your knives so often?

I used to be the same way, but eventually realized it was unnecessary. Some of the knives I've carried most have never been taken apart.

You'd be amazed by what a flush with some good ol' naphtha does for cleaning.
I don't, typically. Most of my knives have not been disassembled. I have plenty of pinned Spydercos and slip joints that will outlive me.

That said, I miss having a knife like the Sebenza that was so mechanically sound and high quality that I never worried if I wanted to take it apart. I just want another knife like that in my collection.

I'm also a tinkerer, so if the action feels a little gunky or rough, the blade is leaning, or whatever, I like to take the knife apart, clean it out, and see if there's anything I can smooth or adjust.

Out of the factory yes, but PB washers are readily available, cheap, and easy to change. Many, including myself, have done it. Some say they notice no difference but others say they do. I like the action better myself on PB washers.
Edit: I never had a problem nor did I dislike the teflons, rather bought and changed to PB just to see if I liked it better or noticed a difference. Nothing wrong with teflon though.
Les George midtechs are also super easy to disassemble and maintain (VECP and Talos especially).
I've had bad and good teflon washers. The knife in my pocket is on teflon, and I'm fine with it. I just don't want them on a $500+ dollar knife.

It's good to know that it's easy to find good PB replacements. That changes my view. Some knives on Teflon don't have PB the right size to swap.

Good call on the VECP, too. A bit plain, but I'll see if I can look up a disassembly video.

but in the big boy world; people who use their knives,
This is unnecessary. I am not new. I am a very big boy, and I have a long history of knife use documented, here.

PB is sturdier, better for assembly/disassembly, it is not subject to a lifespan or polymer creep like teflon is, and it can be tuned with micromesh or high grit sandpaper to improve smoothness.

I do not seek to derail the thread into a discussion about whether or not one needs to disassemble a folder regularly - unless, of course, you like to but of all the many folders I have and have owned throughout decades of doing just about everything and anything one can do with a knife - my oldest Buck 110 has field dressed and skinned more deer, cleaned more fish and been fat/blood deep in a variety of critters more times than I can count. I've also had it packed with grease, sand, dirt and what have you. A very thorough flushing with hot water (and soap and/or Dawn) followed by some compressed air followed by WD-40 then lubed and wiped down was my normal routine. Not until I retired that knife for sentimental reasons and sent it Back to Buck for a freshening up was it ever apart. That knife served me very, very well.
I don't doubt it, at all. While I'm no hunter, I have knives that have seen plenty of dirty and cleaned out okay without disassembly. For the next knife I purchase, however, I want to be able to really be thorough and nit-picky about cleaning.

If you prefer the comfort of Spyderco, then by all means continue to use and maintain a Spyderco. Why look elsewhere? Most of their models require only one or two Torx sizes. Simple. Easy.
Not a bad idea. The Slysz Bowie looks like a good candidate. The new warranty makes that a good option.

Right now, a nice Hinderer is sounding good. Maybe an all Ti MP-1 with some PB washers and bronze hardware...

Thanks for everything so far, guys!
 
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