Brief review: Spyderco Spyderfly

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I'd like to preface this (brief) review by saying I know nothing about balis. This one is my absolute first. I will review this knife to the standards I review all my others--this is unfair in one way, as balis have the unique qualifications of "swinging" abilities--which might be very good OR very poor on this knife.

The first thing you notice about this knife is its astounding beauty. I own no knife that I think is visually comparable to this. When closed, it's as if the blade is on display in its own frame or case. The shape and curvature itself are beautiful. The tremendous contrast between the polished VG10 blade and beadblast finish of the handles. When open, I really enjoy the shape of the blade. I do, however, wish that the other side of the blade was profiled more like the others, instead of having a clear line across it. I understand the purpose--this side is sharp, this side isn't. But I don't appreciate the style. A minor problem, nonetheless. The latch hangs open when the knife is open. This doesn't cause any problems, but it looks awkward.

The next thing you notice is the feel in your hand. This knife is solid. It's like a steel baton. The knife has excellent ergonomics, amazingly and unexpectedly. It feels very sturdy. Your thumb can rest comfortably on the guard-like protrusion during use (if you're so daring as to actually use your bali--I am).

A lot of people talk about the best lock. Axis lock, compression lock, lockback, liner lock....there are a lot of choices out there. I'm here to tell you that you're all wrong. This is the ultimate lock. The blade absolutely can not close on your hand when holding this knife. The nature of holding both handles makes it impossible. If the handle actually broke somehow (maybe if you leverage one side with a forklift against a concrete wall?) it would fail backwards--the side that's not sharp. This is simply the strongest way to do it.

It's fun to open and close. Comparable to an axis lock, so far, but I imagine the longevity of the bali will extend if you dare learn tricks. I dare not.

The VG10 4.1 inch blade is ridiculously sharp. This is the sharpest knife I've ever got out of the box. Most spyderflies now are 440C--in fact, when I ordered this one, I was told it'd be 440C also. Because of this, I can't comment on the sharpness of the "normal" spyderfly. I expect it to be almost as good, however.

The spyderfly does have a noticeable heft. The dual SS handles and 4 inch blade add up. The weight doesn't bother me though, because it feels like just such a solid chunk of steel. And solid chunks of steel are awesome.

I actually really like the pocket clip. It helps orient me (a n00b) to which way the blade is facing so I can open it without fear of slicing my hand. Furthermore, it actually clips on just right. I do wish it were moved down half an inch, however. The knife is so long that you have about 1 centimeter past the clip's tightest part when on. This is plenty for it to stay in your pocket (provided you make sure it's on the whole way when you put it in your pocket), but it's just a little too close for comfort.

I also like the latch (the knife can only lock when closed, however). It's spring loaded. You simply squeeze the handle and it unlocks. It works very well, though there is an issue with it.

I want to preface this part of the review by saying that I have e-mailed spyderco to talk about fixing these problems, and, having only done it late at night (a couple hours ago) I have not received a response. That said, I fully expect that spyderco will live up to their sterling reputation and make the knife perfect. When they do, I will update this part of the review with the results.

However, there are two noticeable problems with the knife. This is the first knife I've ever bought that had noticeable defects, and unfortunately, it also happens to be my first Spyderco.

First, the latch is noticeably bent. It works fine, to its credit, but it definitely looks weird.

Second, in one direction of pressure (difficult to explain), there is several mm of play in the handles (when unlocked--when it matters).

These are definitely real issues, marring an otherwise perfect knife.

Overall, I really like this knife, and plan on carrying it whenever its legal. My knives get used. However, buy yours from the store and check for defects. Again, I have little concern that Spyderco will fix these complaints, so I don't think they should hold too much weight, readers. Significant though they are, if they are fixed, they are fixed--thus, if you encounter a similar problem, you can expect similar results. I hope to be able to update this area in less than a couple of weeks. Otherwise, I'll have to return it to the online store.
 
I don't know what to tell you about the bent clip, But the blade play you should be able to fix, by tightening the pivot screws. It's #8 torx.
 
Well, I can fix the handle play about 85% by tightening them up. Unfortunately, this method works well on folders and badly on balis. When it's tight enough to make a difference (and it's a pretty big difference) the bali becomes a solid piece of steel--not swingable. The play is bad enough that I notice that the blade actually contacts the handle going in sometimes.

This whole incident has me really depressed and broke. I'm pretty upset about it. I know that I'm being unfair here, but I see sal posting all over the place today and I still haven't gotten replies to my problem in the spyderco forum or on this area, and my e-mail hasn't returned. I get it, it's the weekend, I understand, I guess I've been brought up on stories of legendary customer service. I'm still dissapointed.....if newgraham will let me, I'll probably return this and see if I can handle the financial loss for a benchmade bali. I can count on Benchmade....I sooo wanted to believe in Spyderco like nearly everyone here does....I got myself too worked up so this is a huge let down. I have more than 20 knives (at least several are the lower end brands), and I've never had a single defect...but my first spyderco has several...I'll be forced to give this knife a lukewarm overall review if I choose to go this route...and I can't exactly give it a sterling review even if Spyderco does fix it....man...

This probably isn't the end of me and Spyderco though. They will probably get a second chance fall semester when I will most likely buy an S30V native or, money willing, a para. But I'll buy it in the store where I can check and double check for defects...man...

I don't want to post this on the general board to give Spyderco better time to respond before I give bad press. They deserve until at least one weekday in all fairness.

Sorry for rambling in my review, but...I have to say it...

Sorry sal, if you do get around to reading this, nothing personal, sorry spyderco fans, I wanted it just as badly as any of you did. I hope I can get this all worked out....
 
No, it appears that each handle has one washer underneath it against the blade...unless there's supposed to be an additional one somewhere....

By the way, thanks for helping me here...I've been largely ignored about my bali problems in three different sections
 
I'd send go to the Spyderco website forum and ask them. Although, personally I would just send it in to Spyderco and have em' fix it. It would be back in about 2-3 weeks and brand spankin' new. Good Luck.
 
I definitely might, but I don't know if I can wait that long to be honest with you. It may be worth it to just get the benchmade. Tomorrow, if I feel well enough, I'm going to go to army navy...they have a benchmade bali of some kind there...I'm going to play with it and see how much of an improvement (if any) it is...I'll base my decision on that....having to wait a total of three weeks plus the loss of shipping money really drives me nuts....my price is being jacked up to 80 dollars with a long wait...
 
Return it and try a Benchmade 42...it's a classic for a reason. Perfect fit, finish, titanium handles, and it locks open.
 
Those are definitely cool traits, but in general, they use 440C steel instead of the VG10 on my spyderfly, cost nearly twice as much and I don't like how they look as much overall, but I REALLY don't like their blade shape.

But how much am I willing to sacrifice in preference and cash for quality. Spyderco e-mailed me back with some stupid form message finally today (three days later). It told me nothing. The only line that wasn't in the form message was

You need to send it in

That's it. That's the whole message custom tailored for me. Then they pasted the warranty details. Which seem to indicate that because the problems are on the handle, it would cost 20 dollars to repair! I e-mailed them for clarification.

This alone might be enough reason to switch...they still haven't e-mailed me back. No one from spyderco has responded to my post in our spyderco forum, even though I see them posting in other places. I largely feel ignored. Never seen, heard of or had a problem with a benchmade.

Will have to find out when I try one.
 
I got a brief message in reply saying that I wouldn't have to pay for any repairs. They just made it sound like I would in the form letter. I didn't get a chance to try the benchmade bali today, so it'll have to wait yet another day...very dissapointing...but...I'm just so busy these days..
 
With the BM42, there is nothing wrong with 440C. It's a premium stainless and a better choice than VG10 for a blade that will be swinging around and possibly hitting a concrete floor or sidewalk when dropped. Less likely to chip or break. Titanium handles are not for looks but for the perfect balance. There are three blade shapes, but the original can't be beat since...it's a classic...kind of like corvette.
 
Well, I don't really "flip," as it were. My spyderfly will be a user. And twice the money for a lower grade steel still doesn't make sense....I mean, you could definitely make a case for 440C, but I'd expect a price cut. D2 steel makes a ton of sense to me. Really tough stuff (I have a D2 knife). Very cool. I just think a recurve blade looks horrible on a bali. Maybe my opinion will change (I hope so)...I might just need to adjust to it. I SHOULD be able to go knife shopping with elizabeth today, and I can try a benchmade 42ish thing there.

Don't get me wrong here, I know that the benchmades are awesome, I just don't know that they're 85% more awesome than the spyderfly.

Besides, if I keep the spyderfly, when I buy a szabofly, I'll have the collection ;-)
 
Artfully Martial said:
I just think a recurve blade looks horrible on a bali. Maybe my opinion will change (I hope so)...I might just need to adjust to it. I SHOULD be able to go knife shopping with elizabeth today, and I can try a benchmade 42ish thing there.

Don't get me wrong here, I know that the benchmades are awesome, I just don't know that they're 85% more awesome than the spyderfly.
;-)

I don't think I really understand your problem, it kind of just sounds like normal play in the blade/handles of an open bali. Not sure though.

If you get into actually flipping the bali around, you will appreciate the difference between a BM4X and the Spiderfly. While the Spyderfly is pretty nice, it just doesn't work as well as the BM's do. Personally I think it is too heavy too, but that is really just personal preference. If you don't like the blade shape on the 42, see if you can find a 46 somewhere.

Spyderfly is worth its price, and so are the BM's.
 
Played with a benchmade 42 today...you're right...the play must be normal...too bad though...I'm going to stick with the spyderfly...thanks for the help guys.


Post review note: Despite my problems with the spyderfly, I do love it, and lord help me, I am forced to give a good review. I've tried the main competitor, the benchmade 42, and I prefer the spyderfly. Now I just need to get a szabofly.
 
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