British Isles for 2 weeks - recommendations?

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This summer Sarah and I will be flying to Ireland for a week in Dublin, then hopping the Irish Sea for a week in Glasgow, Scotland. So the knives go in the checked luggage.

I'm pretty sure I understand the law in Scotland will be no fixed blade or locking folder of any size, but slipjoints under 3 inches are OK. I'm not as sure about Ireland, but I don't think it's more restrictive?

Presuming I'm intending to be a happy law abiding tourist :) , I'm thinking of picking up a pair of beater, but not junker, slipjoints. The other thought would be to take this an excuse to pick up a nice old fashioned gent like a Case Seahorse Whittler, but for now I think I'm probably going cheap.

Right now I'm thinking the small (3.5" closed, 2.75" blade) Kissing Crane Brown Mule Sodbuster looks like it does the job. $12 from Ragweed, $8 from Eknife, carbon steel full height grind, hardwood scales. If I really want to cheap out I could save a couple bucks more on plastic handled Black Angus / Coal Miner version, or a Stanley sodbuster, but the Brown Mule just looks better to my eye. I owned a large one a long time ago, and remember it was solidly built, if not too finely ground.

The Okapi is another option, but again I think the Brown Mule catches my eye better.

An inexpensive slipjoint I really wouldn't mind owning is a Japanese carpenter's knife - laminated blade, nice thumbrest - but Lee Valley right now only has them in a 4" blade, which defeats my purpose for the trip. Anybody know where to get one in a sub-3" blade?

I know there are non-locking Opinels, but without the ring I again might just stick with the Brown Mule. The Opie would almost certainly cut better, though. Hmm.

I have a Classic-sized Victorinox (little hawkbill main blade, not sure what that pattern is called), but that's tiny for an all-purpose EDC. I want a bigger SAK, but I'm looking at getting one with a lock, so I'm probably not getting one for this trip.

I'm worried enough that my Pacific Cutlery 983 - that's the Barry Wood with swinging handles - would be called a lock (which it effectively is) or a balisong that I'm not tempted to risk it.

Just remembered, the outdoor shop downtown had a Europe/UK legal climbers slipjoint - I'll look at it again.

So what else should I be looking at? Am I missing something obvious? I used to own a couple inexpensive but decent folders marked "Imperial Ireland", so I presume shopping in Dublin would be one option.
 
Spyderco UK slipjoint I've been hearing about is an option, sorry, no links for you. Stay in Ireland and Scotland, I'll be right behind ya in about 2 or 3 years, always wanted to go. Post some pics of the countryside, and the fine Irish lasses...
 
hi Nick,

Most laws in Southern Ireland are open to interpretation by the local Gardai (police). the Offensive Weapons Act 1990 makes it illegal to carry ANY blade or pointy object unless you can prove you have good reason to carry it in public.

But basically, a non locking blade of under 3in is acceptable, just don't get yourself arrested for anything else while you're carrying it!.

Irish people are not used to seeing knives (inc. pocket knives) being used in public, so I would go with a small SAK. Keep a low profile and you won't attract any attention.

I have been searched while carrying a Leatherman Wave (wrong place, wrong time :)), and once they realised I was a decent sort they didn't even comment.

I don't know of anywhere in Dublin to purchase quality knives, you will find SAKs, Bucks and lots of no-name cheap stuff at high prices in the fishing / camping shops around the city centre. example the Leatherman Squirt S4 = $75 US.

Try to get to Galway or Cork for a couple of days. Both are about 3hrs by train or car from Dublin, the scenery is worth missing a few days in Dublin.

have a good trip,
A.
 
Nick Hyle said:
I understand the law in Scotland will be no fixed blade or locking folder of any size, but slipjoints under 3 inches are OK.

Correct.

The Spyderco UK Penknife was designed specifically by Sal Glesser (with the help of UK knuts from the excellent British Blades forum!) to comply with our :barf: laws.

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Essentially, it's a lockless Calypso with a low-vis wire clip. A superb knife, though UK prices (and availability...) will make your head spin!

Failte gu Alba!

maximus otter
 
I agree with fiacha that a SAK is your best bet. Even though the odds are slim there is no point in ruining a nice vacation by inadvertantly running afoul of the law. I also agree that it would be a shame not to see the west coast of Ireland. From Dingle to Donegal is spectacular. I'm hoping to spend a couple of weeks in Donegal my self this summer. :)

Jack
 
Thanks, guys, I'll keep thinking about it, and maybe pick up another SAK.

The UK penknife looks great, I just can't see paying for it given that when I get back to this side of the pond I'll be going back to carrying my Benchmade 770D2/705/940CF/730CF rotation.

The whole reason I'll be in Ireland is for a professional conference, the first week of which is in Dublin, the second week in Glasgow. So I really can't take a few days off to run to Donegal/Galway/Cork no matter how pretty it is. :)
 
Nick Hyle said:
The whole reason I'll be in Ireland is for a professional conference, the first week of which is in Dublin, the second week in Glasgow.

Dang, I need a new profession. :D

Jack
 
I agree with the others, a Victorinox SAK would be your best bet. An alox model like the Farmer, Soldier or Pioneer are very sturdy slipjoints that make for great EDC....
 
Or a Leatherman Juice, or one of the older style non-locking larger Leathermen (as long as the blade length is < 3 ins)
 
So what else should I be looking at? Am I missing something obvious? I used to own a couple inexpensive but decent folders marked "Imperial Ireland", so I presume shopping in Dublin would be one option.

The Schrade-Imperial factory in Ireland closed even before Schrade went out of business. Don't know about overseas availability of their products, but modern Imperial knives are common on eBay and sometimes found on closeout in retail stores.

-Bob
 
When in Glasgow visit a shop called 'Victor Morris' on Sauchiehall Street. I don't want to get your hopes up as he sells mainly junk knives but sometimes he has the odd nice blade. Also, visit the Kelvingrove Art Gallery and Museum. It has one of the finest collections of arms and armour in the world and I'm guessing you'll enjoy. Edinburgh is less than an hour away by car or train so there's no excuse not to visit.
Then there are all those single malt whiskys...:)
 
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