Broken Queens cutlery folder

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Brent9614

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Hi, I hope I’m posting this in the right place. I’m fixing a queens cutlery folder for a friend and a part is missing I think, I just don’t know what. I’ve got a couple pictures of it so everyone can see what I’m talking about. I don’t have a ton of experience with lockback knifes so it’s a adventure. I’m hoping it’s something simple so I can get this think back to him soon! Thanks for any advice you can give!https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wczmse7gk7z2y58/AACFyUoKIpm7aU8ypC9ymJARa?dl=0
 
Before you do anything, put the proper sized pins in all the holes and see if it works.
 
Ok, finally was able to get around to trying to put the pins back in and make sure they were the right size ones. When it’s all back together with the pins in and you press the back to release the blade, there’s no pressure at all on it. That’s what’s making me think there’s some kind of spring steel or something missing from it
 
This is a lockback model. Does the blade lock when open? If not, I suspect (?) the tension spring for the backspring is not bent enough to get a full lockup. Just my speculation. All the parts seem to be in place.
 
Rich S said:
This is a lockback model. Does the blade lock when open? If not, I suspect (?) the tension spring for the backspring is not bent enough to get a full lockup. Just my speculation. All the parts seem to be in place.
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It will if the release isn’t touched at all lol when I got it that smaller piece at the bottom by the lanyard hole would just fall out on its own.
 
Brent9614 said:
Ok, finally was able to get around to trying to put the pins back in and make sure they were the right size ones. When it’s all back together with the pins in and you press the back to release the blade, there’s no pressure at all on it. That’s what’s making me think there’s some kind of spring steel or something missing from it
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It looks as if the thin spring which rests against the lanyard tube, underneath the aft end of the lockbar/backspring, is broken or deformed/bent and separated from the lockbar, upon zooming in on your photo. If that's the case, that would explain the lack of pressure or resistance when pressing the lockbar.
 
Obsessed with Edges said:
It looks as if the thin spring which rests against the lanyard tube, underneath the aft end of the lockbar/backspring, is broken, upon zooming in on your photo. If that's the case, that would explain the lack of pressure or resistance when pressing the lockbar.
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Is it something that can be as simple as ordering a new spring and replacing it?
 
Brent9614 said:
Is it something that can be as simple as ordering a new spring and replacing it?
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Doubtful. The Queen factory that built the knife went out of business a few years ago. Even then, it's usually difficult to get exact replacement parts for old folders like these.
 
Obsessed with Edges said:
Doubtful. The Queen factory that built the knife went out of business a few years ago. Even then, it's usually difficult to get exact replacement parts for old folders like these.
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Yea, I seen they went out of business. Do you think there’s any parts that would work even if they weren’t original? Even if they requires small amount of dremel work? I’m not too concerned about keeping it original, just operational
 
Brent9614 said:
Yea, I seen they went out of business. Do you think there’s any parts that would work even if they weren’t original? Even if they requires small amount of dremel work? I’m not too concerned about keeping it original, just operational
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That lockbar/spring combination looks unusual to me. Most lockback knives have a separate spring applying tension underneath the end of the lockbar. But this one looks as if it was integral to the lockbar itself, i.e., milled from one piece, and looks broken at the thin forward end where it appears to have been attached to the lockbar. I've never seen that before. I don't think any other 'standard' parts would match that, unless you happened to find another identical folder and scavenge parts from that.
 
Obsessed with Edges said:
That lockbar/spring combination looks unusual to me. Most lockback knives have a separate spring applying tension underneath the end of the lockbar. But this one looks as if it was integral to the lockbar itself, i.e., milled from one piece, and looks broken at the thin forward end where it appears to have been attached to the lockbar. I've never seen that before. I don't think any other 'standard' parts would match that, unless you happened to find another identical folder and scavenge parts from that.
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Looks, like I’m going hunting! I appreciate all the advice guys, everyone’s been super helpful!
 
Brent9614 said:
Looks, like I’m going hunting! I appreciate all the advice guys, everyone’s been super helpful!
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Best of luck in your search. I noticed the tang stamp on the blade appears to include 'PH-D2' underneath the 'TITUSVILLE, PA' stamping. That indicates this was one of their D2 steel blades, with the 'PH' indicating 'Peters Heat Treat', the name of the contractor which did the heat treat on Queen's blades. It would be good to see some new life in that old knife.
 
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Goofy knife. The rear portion the goes over the tubing should have another pin in it to keep it from moving/rotating.
 
The spring sheared off of at the lockbar and the backspacer does not have any pins locking it down. You can possibly modify the same parts and make it functional again. You can add two holes to the backspacer and pin to to the handles to lock it down, shorten the spring a bit, then re-tension the spring to convert it into a traditional lockbar set-up. The only worry is if there is enough meat in the backspacer to not have the holes blow out.

Hopefully this drawing can explain it better:

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