Brute de forge file knife with mosaic wood

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This blade was forged from a large Nicholson file, so it is quality W1 high carbon steel. Handle is a stacked twisted mosaic wood of purpleheart, reclaimed teak, and reclaimed walnut. Bolster is cast mica powder and G-Flex epoxy.
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I had a lot of fun with this guy, it's a little all over the place, but I like how busy it is.
 
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Cool, it's like an Alice in Wonderland trench knife.
 
The handle reminded me of your other knives. If you'd make traditional handles I think you'd have some nice knives. I think the handles detract from an otherwise nice looking blade. The guard compliments the blade in a nice way.
 
The handle reminded me of your other knives. If you'd make traditional handles I think you'd have some nice knives. I think the handles detract from an otherwise nice looking blade. The guard compliments the blade in a nice way.

I have to agree, the handle is a bit too nice for the roughness of the rest of the knife. At least in the traditional/conventional sense. But if you were going for the "Alice in Wonderland" look, then you nailed it! :thumbup:
 
The whole thing is horrible and an exercise in self indulgence....one of the ugliest knives that I have seen all year, ill conceived, each part stands on its own.....the blade shape looks nice, but goes askew from there.

Congratulations for having the stones to post this, you will likely persevere enough to overcome youthful flights of fancy and become a solid maker when you grow up.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Mr. RockNazz, The only way you can gauge your work and grow is get honest, no frills critiques. You got that just above this post.

When you post in this forum (and I sincerely hope you will continue) you put your work up for comparison with some of the best and most experienced makers in the world. As a beginning knife maker the honest comparison and critiques will necessarily sting a bit, but if you have the right mind set, you will grow and benefit. Flowery "hey, man, that looks great, or I love it etc" comments do little if anything to cause you to grow and get better, and if they obviously rub butter on your butt, you know it and feel worse for it.

Continue trying! Do your best each time! Be you own harshest critic and watch the magic take place!

Come back soon

Paul
 
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I will ALWAYS appreciate honest critique, especially when it's meant to steer me in the right direction, thank you Steven and Paul.

Recently I have been experimenting A LOT, trying to find what materials and styles that really speak to me - I've been told many times that I need to settle into a style. I really like brute de forge with integral guards... where I am struggling is the handle (as I'm sure you're well aware haha).

I would love your honest opinion on which direction you guys feel I should take my handles :)
 
I often preach to makers struggling to find a coherent "style" that works, is desired by buyers and satisfying to make to look at work that has been produced by the "masters".

If you like "fantasy" knives, look no further than WW Cronk or Gil Hibben's work with Paul Ehlers.

If you like "quirky" forged knives, perhaps Christoph Deringer or Tai Goo..

As some examples. Do a lot of drawings, refine your flow....the way the knives come together from blade to handle.

Personally, I think you are wasting your time with expoxy mixes involving eggshells, copper powder or any other material, as it is not going to become a sought after material....but since you can forge, there is always mosaic damascus and mokume gane to create.

Good luck to you, and Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I gotta go with STeven, though maybe not quite so bluntly. :D What he said about the various elements not clicking together coalesced my reaction to it. I'd taken a look when you posted, but not commented.

The strongest part of this design is the blade. It's bold and workmanlike, while the guard adds a bit of moustache-twirling dash. The forging on the guard could use some refinement, but that will come with time.

The handle takes attention away from the rest of it. My sense of aesthetics looks to the overall flow of lines on a knife. A good-looking blade profile and elegant handle is of utmost importance, with blade finish and handle material supplying flavor to a solid overall design. Anything that is there for "flavor" that takes away from the foundation of a good silhouette is detrimental to the knife. It's one reason that mosaic and other forms of Damascus is often not my cup of tea; the pattern frequently ignores the flow of lines of the profile and jars the eye away from the overall shape.

The checkered wood of the handle jars on my eye and takes away from me looking at the lines to see if they're graceful or angular, how bold or subtle they are. I just see the odd checkering. And the color of the poured epoxy bolster adds another, unrelated jarring element.

I love how you experiment with your knives, but there are times where it comes off as the knife being a vehicle for the concept, and the concept not being an integral part of the knife design, if that makes sense. You're kind of the opposite of me in some approaches. I make slow changes to how I make things and make tweaks as I go. I use a small selection of materials because I want to focus on getting the shape of the blade and handle as good as I can without worrying about how I need to work some new material. You try a new material and/or process on each knife, sometimes several on one knife.

And that's not necessarily a bad thing, but you gotta integrate the concepts into the whole in such a way that it compliments it, not takes away from it.

If you had a poured pewter bolster in the same shape, with a solid walnut or bone/antler handle on it, it would look so much more coherent. "That's been done before, a lot!" Yes, for a reason: it looks good. :) Within the framework of a particular style is a lot of room for individuality and innovation. Look at what folks like Daniel Winkler and John Cohea have done with their sub-genre of knifemaking.

Most of my favorite makers are those who march to their own bagpipe, use oddball concepts in their designs, and use unusual materials. Tai Goo, Mardi Meshejian, and Virgil England spring to mind, as well as some of Larry Fuegen's work (the knife with the bolster carved into the face of an old man, with the handle like the mitre of a Lemurian priest). But they have a solid coherence where the profile provides the substance and the concept provides the flavor.

Maybe at this point dial back the concept a bit and focus on laying that solid foundation that will benefit from the concept. Make the concept the second thing people see, after first seeing that it's a good knife.

Right now, your handle may have a good shape to it, but I'm so distracted by the wood pattern that I'm not sure. :D
 
Ok, a brief sampling of blades from the makers I mentioned above that marry concept with solid foundational design. These are, of course, some of the most talented living makers, with years of honing natural talent. So not to talk about level of work, just the basic idea of having a concept that the design centers around, but the foundation making it work.







 
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