BSA Scout Utillity Knife

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I always have a soft spot for things BSA and with Camillus shutting its doors, I decided I had to have one. I chose the plain scaled 4 blade utility model due my plan on occasionally EDCing the knife and outdoor use. I didn't need fancy scales. When the knife arrived I eagerly opened it because all my blades are at least occasional users. I am not a collector and have no desire to leave things in original packaging. Back to the knife.

I was impressed by the heft and the snap of the springs. It was also sharp out of the box, including the can opener and awl. Now for things that have left me ultimately disappointed.

Uneven quality of rivets. The center rivet is not flush with the scales. They are rough to the touch on the edge and one actually appears somewhat "chewed up" Both rivets that hold on the bail appear to have been damaged when formed. They are both out of round and of variable roughness.

Sharp bail ends. Both ends of the bail where it is held by the rivots have been cut off square and not smoothed or beveled. They are actually sharp enough to scratch skin or catch in your pocket.

Vertical scratching on main blade. On the main blade, on the reverse from the BSA etching is a vertical scratch extending approximately 2/3 the width of the blade. It was present the first time I opened the blade. If I had to guess I would say it was caused by improper seating of the blade too tight to the awl.

This quality is certainly not what I expected from Camillus. The 2 Cub Scout models my son has received in the past year have been completely without defect or complaint. I'm wondering if perhaps this is a "end of days" knife made and assembled after most of the master cutlers were no longer on the shop floor. I saved the packaging to ask this question. Is there a way to determine the date of manufacture of my knife?

Despite these perceived flaws I will continue to enjoy my latest purchase. I have no desire to return it. I was hoping for a nicer example however. Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide.
 
I have been a bit disappointed with just about every Camillus branded slipjoint knife I've purchased in the last few years. The underlying quality of the knives has always been rather good. The blades are sharp from the factory and they hold an edge well, the blades walk and talk well, and there's very little sideways slop when opened. However, there are always some workmanship problems that leave me a bit disappointed. My five blade BSA deluxe camp knife, which I purchased about 4 years ago, has liners that don't even come close to fitting up with the external perimeter of the knife and the polishing job leaves a lot to be desired. My two blade BSA leader's knife had blades that hit each other when the knife was closed and I got a brass sliver in my finger off one of the brass liners, right out of the box. My latest granpa Stockman has scales that don't really fit between the bolsters very well and the shield has a large ridge of delrin around it. Looks like melted plastic around the shield. A Camillus 63 stockman I recently purchased has a similar problem with the shield. About the most I can say is that although Camillus makes a fine quality knife, in the past few years they didn't spend a lot of time worrying about things such as appearance or a small burr or scratch here and there. That has been my experience with Camillus slipjoints anyway. I'm sure this didn't get any better towards the end.
 
This quality is certainly not what I expected from Camillus.
It actually sounds typical of the hit-or-miss Camillus quality and lack of QC that I've noticed as well.

-Bob
 
My five blade BSA deluxe camp knife, which I purchased about 4 years ago, has liners that don't even come close to fitting up with the external perimeter of the knife and the polishing job leaves a lot to be desired.

I just purchased 3 Camillus TL-29s from a company that still had some left. The liners were well below the level of the back springs on all three. Since I have about 8 or 9 other Camillus TL-29s in my collection, some going back close to WWII, I checked them. Out of almost 12 Camillus TL-29s, the liner met up with the back spring on only one of the knives, and even it wasn't perfect.

These knives were made as tools to be used, not collectors items. They were massed produced and do not have the attention to detail that a custom made knife has, nor even the fit and finish of some of the modern reproductions of some of the older knives that Queen & others are making now. They also don't have the higher price.

I recently purchased a Primble Hawbaker Muskrat that is made by/for Blue Grass Cutlery. I bought it because I like the pattern and wanted it for a user. After 2-3 days of light use one of the blades started to wobble & I had to tighten it. I think it is 440 stainless and won't hold an edge for sour apples. BUT, it looks great!

I will take a quality knife, made to be used, with a carbon steel blade any day over some of the fancy knives that look pretty, cost more, but won't hold up even under light use conditions.

Just my $.02,
Dale
 
I picked up a few BSA camp knives (3 Deluxe five-blade and 2 four-blade) and I wasn't impressed or dissapointed with the fit & finish of the 5-blade knives. I was a little dissapointed with the 4-blade BSA knives. The main blade's nail nick was completely covered by the can opener or punch, or whatever was right next to it. How is a kid supposed to open the blade? Not easily, that's how!

I agree that these things were not being made to be collector's items, but c'mon!

I like the 5-Blade BSA camp knives. Hefty and well designed. I might just keep the best example for myself!
 
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