Bubbaized Mauser!!!

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So I'm thinking of getting an inexpensive 8mm Mauser bolt action rifle, and I've been looking around at what's available when I came across this.

Frankly, I'm not sure what to think about this.

It allegedly is a "1947 Argentine Mauser" chambered in 7.9X57mm, but I'm thinking that might not be correct. Looks sorta like a 1909 Mauser which I'm fairly certain was chambered only in 7.65X53 Argentine. Don't think that is the original stock that Bubba "hand carved" either. He posted a price of $300 for this. :eek:

I'm really curious about what model of Mauser this actually is, and if it was originally chambered for 8mm?

Comments of all sort welcome, as are gratuitous pics of Bubbaized Mausers.
 

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I have seen worse too. I think Bubba raised the price a bit. http://www.armslist.com/posts/64143...-rifles-for-sale-1947-8x57mm-argentine-mauser

If it's a 1909, it would be 7.65X53. If it's really 7.9X57, then it is probably a model 24 or something like that. Personally, I think you could do better for $300.
I would pass on it.

If you are serious, take a look on gunbroker.com. There are some decent sporterized 03s and 03A3s for about $300 or a little more. Some with scopes.
 
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It's been reposted several times since September. Price was dropped to $275 last week.

Personally, I think the folk art thing is kinda neat, but when I was trying to Google information on this rifle I saw someone had posted about it in a thread on somethingawful with the caption "What hath Bubba wrought?"

If this was rebored to 7.9 at the arsenal and is actually safe to shoot, my concern would be if the stock had been weakened. Does that look like the original stock, or do you think it was taken from another rifle?

Anyhow, I could buy a Turkish Mauser AND a Spanish Mauser for the price of this, so I'll probably end up with one of those since I'm just looking for a backup to my Hakim. But it is kinda kewl. :)
 
Hi,

I think it's unlikely they would rechamber and then rebore it. Rebarrel for sure, that was done many times by many nations. But I don't think the Argentines ever rebarreled either.

The pictures are pretty difficult to tell much from. If it is a 1909, it's been rebarreled by Bubba. And that is maybe not too unusual. Many South American Mausers show a lot of neglect and abuse. And would need a rebarrel for sporting use. I do think it's an after market stock. And his art work leaves much to desired to my eye.

I'm not a fan of bubba'ed old mil-surp rifles. I think they should be enjoyed for what they are and how they are. But to each his own I guess.

dalee
 
I'd want to inspect anything that came from South America. A friend of mine had a Mauser that came from Brazil, and was chambered in 30-06. It looked like it was in unaltered military configuration, stock was in great condition, and all exposed steel was in very good condition. However, when we took the stock off, it exposed some very serious and deep pitting all over the barrel and receiver that was covered by the stock. It would not be safe to fire. The stock found a second life on my son's VZ-24, and the barrel/receiver is a big paperweight.
 
Closeup of the engraving on the barrel reads "cal 792" so I am assuming this is a Spanish M-43 chambered in 8mm. Bubba has not replied to my email, but a fellow a mile away has an unaltered M-43 for just over 100 with a clean shiny bore. Kinda groovin' on the funky folk art thing, but it seems a bit overpriced and I'd haveta drive an hour to meet Bubba halfway. Looks like I'll probably pass on this one.
 
wintermute said:
Do you have any photos showing the top of the receiver?
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If I did, we'd all know for sure what kind of Mauser this was. Only got the 3 pics Bubba posted online. Unique Bubba-carved stock or no, it just don't feel right paying double what the rifle is worth, so I'm probably gonna pass on this.
 
Okay, got a bit more information on this.

The guy selling it said that an Army buddy of his asked him to hold onto it for him before he deployed overseas in the mid 1980s and he never heard from him again and hasn't been able to get in touch with him, so he didn't do the carving on the stock and doesn't know anything about the story behind it.

Turns out the action and barrel is from a Spanish M-43 in 8mm mauser. Stock origin is unknown. Gun is functional and accurate. He says he is willing to negotiate on the price, but I have no idea what the estimated resale value of a sporterized M-43 with a folk art stock might be.

I'm guestimating that the rifle would probably be valued at around 150 and a fair offer would be more like 200. Does that sound about right to y'all?
 
Erasmus said:
Don't pay over $150 for that wierd Mauser. Personal opinion.
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I figure I could get a Spanish M-43 with a cracked stock for 100, a Turkish Mauser for 175, a Nazi Russian Capture Mauser for 200 . . . or this really nifty piece of trailer park folk art certain to make anyone who gazes upon it either laugh out loud or recoil in horror. I figure that's worth an extra fifty bucks.

Am willing to hear out y'all's opinions to the contrary though. :)
 
Hi,

Yeah, I wouldn't go more than $100 on it. From my perspective, it's just worth what a barreled action is worth. So if you can buy a complete un-bubba'ed rifle for $100 virtually next door. This one would be worth maybe half of that to me.

But as you say, you are digging the folk-art like carving of the stock, so it may be worth more in your eyes. And there ain't nothing wrong with that.

dalee
 
dalee100 said:
So if you can buy a complete un-bubba'ed rifle for $100 virtually next door. This one would be worth maybe half of that to me.
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The $100 M-43 with the crack in the stock is also counterbored with an integral "muzzle brake" Bubba done with a power drill, so I think I'm gonna pass on that one. I've heard about another Mauser with a Bubba'ed muzzle brake that didn't affect the recoil at all.

Another option is to forgo the Mauser and pick up a Competitor Pistol instead and get an 8mm Mauser barrel for it. That would be cool as hell, but it would end up costing nearly a grand and probably dislocate my thumb the first time I fired it. But it would be an 8mm Mauser pistol. :thumbup:
 
tyr_shadowblade said:
I'm guestimating that the rifle would probably be valued at around 150 and a fair offer would be more like 200. Does that sound about right to y'all?
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Yeah, sounds about right. Even nice sporterized Mausers (I inherited a Mauser Gewehr 98 manufactured in Dresden in 1916 with a NICE sporterized stock - walnut, with walnut overlay of the recoil lug, schnabel fore-end) aren't really worth too much.
 
Pick a good surplus turnbolt in good, shootable condition, or suffer with an annoying, non-functional door stop.

My Turkish Mauser with the worn down firing pin is currently a cracked-stock door stop.

Do as I say, not as I do :)
 
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