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Ive got an old Buck 110 that has 1 dot in front of the 110 and 2 dots behind it. Ive got a Buck dating system from 1986 to 2010 but it doesnt show any dots being used. Any info on this dating system and age of knife is appreciated--KV
 
Sorry, I can't help but I'll bet that the Buck or Bernard Levine sub-forums would get you an answer.
 
The 3 dots were made in 1980 in the new El Cajon plant and the blades are the last of 440C.Probably the best of that steel as there were some changes made at the factory just before introducing 425M steel.DM
 
Thanks for clearing that up David. So this chart isn't accurate?:confused: How is the 1981 marked?

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Plumber, the charts been changed recently.No need to chide me.As many older collectors will tell you that for years the 3 dot WAS 1980 and stated in many writings.So, I'm in error.Thank you for stingingly correcting me.DM
 
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The data handed out at the 20yr. event (one yr. ago) showed the 3 dots produced on 1980.I even have other data published in late 2008 showing the same info.. If you look in Joe's sticky I posted comments on this subject as late as March 2009 as to why were the dots changing year dates? Yet, I've not recieved any reply there.Looking in the club site under model history I'm not able to open those files. Only data in the third colum of special projects can I look at.So, yes it was recent and yes I'm at a deficit.At being able to obtain the recent up dates.But not to preclude manners.DM
 
David Martin said:
Plumber, the chart been changed recently.No need to chide me.As many older collectors will tell you that for years the 3 dot WAS 1980 and stated in many writings.So, I'm in error.Thank you for stingingly correcting me.DM
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David, I WAS NOT chiding or disputing you! I was thinking that perhaps the chart was wrong. I'm a newby to all this and didn't know if the chart was truly accurate or not. It's just that it's been posted and referred to so many times that I've used it as a reference. I was pretty sure that it was made up by someone other than Buck, so if someone as knowlegeable as yourself said it was wrong, I wanted to know.

I'm sorry if I came across as being critical. :o
 
Ok,I probably miss-qued.My mistake.Now, we need to determine if this chart can be authenticated.DM
 
my personal data chart said 1980 but the 0 is x out to 1981
and i dont know when i did that..
 
Dave,You should probably show us the data that led you to this conclusion.Then perhaps Joe post his.I'll not come against you for 1) respect you've been here longer. I think the 3 dots may have not even been stamped for a full year only a partial of 1980 is from George Stinzel's research. 2) in your defense; a careful listening of the 20yr.reunion DVD's of George Stinzel's persentation on the history of the 110 could sway one to see his evidence.In that presentation he put the 4dots at 1981 into 82,the 3 dots in late 1980 and the the 2 dots ending in early 1980.A man of his caliber and experience I must respect.So, keep digging thru your notes you may uncover something.My Grandfather used to tell me,"son keep poking in that brush pile you'll stir a rabbit out".DM
 
334's personal data below are quotes from joe at diff times
the doc these are from is dated 2006 in my flies...
one= "I do not know the exact date of when we went from the semi hollow to the full hollow but it was sometime after 1980. = Joe H."
two="81-86 four dots, two each side ..110.. using 425M steel full hollow grind started for sure…= Joe H."
some ne check the intor date of the 111 as i have a-
side note>>three dots are on a full hollow grind 111 clasic blade! the exception to dating as the 111 was intro in '80 maybe?
side note >> 1982 buck letter in july announcing the new finger grooved version of the 110 and 112 but not in catalog tell 84(i did not record the person stating that)
 
Dave, Is Joe making some connection between going to a full hollow grind and the 3 dots? Were getting something.Keep digging.Thanks DM
 
yes i recall the reference being that all 4 dots are 425M
AND are full hollow grind so
conversly all simi hollow are 440C
Except for the 111 which seems to be 440c with a full hollow grind..
but this is soft data and is only my thoughts and MHO..
so i am happy with that 1981 is the first year for 4 dots
now that said..
nothing at buck is in stone except for careing for the customer
it would not surprise me to find a NIB dated 1980 with a 4 dot blade..
IMHO the chart, it is a guide line for the dateing ..
i would not bet my collection on it..
 
Dave,True on betting anything.Well, espically prior to the year date symbols.
A 1980 w/ a 4 dot blade would be real hard to prove.However,(I'll go there w/ you) its widely accepted that the 110 FG's came out in late 1981 as a 4 dot.But Larry O. has assured me he
has a 3 dot, FG, NIB.Now, thats one of those mysteries shrouded in speculation.I pondered this for years until I bought a 112, 3 dot, FG, NIB.Still, I think the 112, 3 dot, FG is more likely.But this example leans in your direction of uncovering the exceptions to our nicely soldered in set of pipe rules which at times springs the proverbial leak.DM
I apologize to all readers and contributors of this thread for my earlier, unsightly, remarks.
 
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